Spirits of the Earth

CONFIRMED IN-GAME

• no weight capacity limits
• easter eggs!!
• crafting/cooking - collecting/buying materials to make stuff

ALREADY SUGGESTED

• relationship system
• multiclassing/subclassing - gain all or some benefits of a second class
• cosmetic items - to change character appearance without changing stats
• class change/evolution - you get to a certain level, then get to pick between two awesome new classes
• weapon upgrade system - like, blacksmiths or something who can upgrade your existing weapons and armor
• alignment system - one that doesn't make Tal go cross-eyed with annoyance!
• achievements! - LOVE this idea, if I can make it happen, I will

Easter Eggs - You go to certain towns and locations and there are small in jokes that people will recognise as other games (or in our case, site wide jokes, like the beard war.)

crafting - obtain resources by a vendor, then craft your own unique armour and weapons.
and food, which would boost one's stats for a while.

Multi Classing - Where you take on a second class, you can either gain the full benefit of the second class or some of it depending on the class system.

This exclusion of carryweight. Overincumberedness makes me rage

THE GAME TO BE DONE ;D

um. how about... relationships? it can be minor i guess but if you do something a certain way you can get a character angry.. . or have pairs of sub quests and you can only complete one of them, and that would effect your reactions with the others?  (so for example A wants you to kill B , B wants you to kill A..  your decision determines whose funeral it is and what loot you get)
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that's probably WAY too much but little things might be kinda cool. hows learning the program going anyway?

Quote from: Brisinger987 on January 02, 2014, 03:32:43 PM
Easter Eggs - You go to certain towns and locations and there are small in jokes that people will recognise as other games (or in our case, site wide jokes, like the beard war.)

This should be super easy and definitely a hundred percent awesome!

Quote from: Nomad on January 02, 2014, 09:35:37 PM
Multi Classing - Where you take on a second class, you can either gain the full benefit of the second class or some of it depending on the class system.

I've been impressed with a subclass system I've found and may use that. (8

Quote from: Anadwen on January 02, 2014, 03:35:57 PM
crafting - obtain resources by a vendor, then craft your own unique armour and weapons.
and food, which would boost one's stats for a while.

Sounds like a good idea, especially if we do the weapon upgrading this could go hand in hand with that.

Quote from: Sir Zane on January 02, 2014, 09:53:44 PM
This exclusion of carryweight. Overincumberedness makes me rage

Eww, carry weight limits. >_o So annoying.  Yeah, I don't want those either.

Quote from: Winters-Feather on January 02, 2014, 11:12:13 PMum. how about... relationships? it can be minor i guess but if you do something a certain way you can get a character angry.. . or have pairs of sub quests and you can only complete one of them, and that would effect your reactions with the others?  (so for example A wants you to kill B , B wants you to kill A..  your decision determines whose funeral it is and what loot you get)

Good idea, will try to do something like this!

Quote from: Winters-Feather on January 02, 2014, 11:12:13 PMhows learning the program going anyway?

It's both remarkably simple and surprisingly powerful. o__o I put together a tiny demo for Rhi in like three days.  It just used all the default stuff from the software, but getting it all to function was way easier than I expected.

Not a turn-based combat system. Instead of taking turns like in some RPGs, you would attack your enemy straight away and start smashing skill buttons to kill it as fast as possible - and so would the enemy.

I found turn-taking skill system very annoying and I liked how some RPGs solved their battle system (LotRO etc).

Also, I hope it will be possible to zoom in and out, change camera angle and switch between 1st and 3rd person view, if I'm not asking for too much.

The ability to choose from a variety of races!

Oh, and there should be Demon and Angel armor, which are equal on best-in-the-game!

And Pets! And riding dragons! And meeting Gods (As in Baihua and Defteroi, pointed out individually for no reason what-soever ;) )! And the ability to hoard cheese! And every NPC should have a quest tied to them! And you should have the guard from Skyrim who used to be an Adventurer like you, but then he took an arrow to the knee! And- *runs out of battery*

Yeah, and NPCs that would send you on a seemingly pointless quest, crack jokes, or in other ways acted in amusing ways.

And raids/instances - where you are set on a fight in a certain location, smash a lot of mobs, and receive rewards in the end. It doesn't have to be done in a group, it goes alone, too.

Certain classes could have pets and/or soldiers to help them, too.

There shouldn't be classes. You shouldn't be restricted by it. If you're a mage and find a wicked sword, you should be able to swap instantly.

no, there should be classes. if you learn a skill that is specific for a mage and requires a staff, you shouldn't be able to use a sword for it. it would be unnatural and not good for the game.

Quote from: Anadwen on January 03, 2014, 02:41:12 AM
no, there should be classes. if you learn a skill that is specific for a mage and requires a staff, you shouldn't be able to use a sword for it. it would be unnatural and not good for the game.

I'm saying that you should be able to use a sword even if you have all the skill in magic, Even though you will suck at the sword.

Quote from: Tak on January 03, 2014, 02:48:57 AM

Quote from: Anadwen on January 03, 2014, 02:41:12 AM
no, there should be classes. if you learn a skill that is specific for a mage and requires a staff, you shouldn't be able to use a sword for it. it would be unnatural and not good for the game.

I'm saying that you should be able to use a sword even if you have all the skill in magic, Even though you will suck at the sword.

No, I don't think so. I think skills should require specific weapons to be used - for example, skills with melee weapons couldn't be done with a bow, and skills for magic damage shouldn't be able to be done with a greatsword.

Quote from: Anadwen on January 03, 2014, 02:53:17 AM

Quote from: Tak on January 03, 2014, 02:48:57 AM

Quote from: Anadwen on January 03, 2014, 02:41:12 AM
no, there should be classes. if you learn a skill that is specific for a mage and requires a staff, you shouldn't be able to use a sword for it. it would be unnatural and not good for the game.

I'm saying that you should be able to use a sword even if you have all the skill in magic, Even though you will suck at the sword.

Read what I said. I'm not disagreeing with you.
No, I don't think so. I think skills should require specific weapons to be used - for example, skills with melee weapons couldn't be done with a bow, and skills for magic damage shouldn't be able to be done with a greatsword.

Guys, no arguing.

Another suggestion:

Afflictions/Disease System - The player character should be able to be afflicted with minor poisons that are obstructions to normal gameplay, or even minor diseases that hinder the player! I don't know if the system would allow for something that complex, but it would make it interesting.

Quote from: Brisinger987 on January 03, 2014, 07:19:14 AM
Afflictions/Disease System - The player character should be able to be afflicted with minor poisons that are obstructions to normal gameplay, or even minor diseases that hinder the player! I don't know if the system would allow for something that complex, but it would make it interesting.

yes, buffs/debuffs like poison and disease are a good idea.

but it would be also helpful if there were things to get rid of them.

lol obviously, no-one wants a message that is basically saying "you're now poisoned for the rest of the game! Enjoy!"

Another something that would be extremely difficult to pull off but be awesome. Some form of morality system, which if it doesnothibg else, effects how characters interactwith the PC (this wiuld go really well with a renown/infamy system)

yeah, but get rid of them before the effect wears off and disappears by itself.

Hmm... Perhaps a karma system? Like if you steal something/hurt someone/murder spree, maybe there are equal consequences later down the line?

((Darn it, Zane, you read my mind!))

Quote from: Sir Zane on January 03, 2014, 07:24:39 AM
Another something that would be extremely difficult to pull off but be awesome. Some form of morality system, which if it doesnothibg else, effects how characters interactwith the PC (this wiuld go really well with a renown/infamy system)

like, the chaotic-neutral-lawful x good-neutral-evil system?

Maybe the alignment system provides some sort of combat/gameplay bonuses if possible?

So, like, an evil alignment provides a damage output boost while a good alignment provides a money boost or something. Or even allows to equip certain magic and items? God that would be difficult, but cool.

yes, like immunity to certain types of damage from certain types of enemies... or resistance to some debuffs, like an evil character being resistant to some types of dark magic, etc.

Btw guys I'm pretty sure there will be subclasses. Idk if someone said that already here, but that will make it so you can keep that wicked sword. :P

Gosh, I haven't played a game like this in ages. So I guess I don't have that much to recommend. But maybe a way to change your character's appearance? I mean, things like skin tone, gender, hair style/color, etc. At least when you first start... and maybe in the game too. Idk.

p.s. I really hope there are random cakes hanging out everywhere. Or you can eat cake for health. Except Spicy's game doesn't have them. ;D

Quote from: zozee9 on January 03, 2014, 11:05:05 AM
p.s. I really hope there are random cakes hanging out everywhere. Or you can eat cake for health. Except Spicy's game doesn't have them. ;D

Pfft, mine would have the fairest cake of them all D<
Also, lol, I just started a new thread where a city just reeks of cake. Going to so be torturing myself on this one 8D

Also, yeah, looks like there's a lot of repeat suggestions, but I'm sure Tally gets the idea and it's fun watching everyone get so excited while an old person like me can just sit back, enjoy and eat cake 8D *so helpful*

I know weapon crafting has been brought up but what about cooking? Another thing, perhaps if possible farming to grow your own foods.

... what's the style of this game? That would be nice to know. :3

EDIT: Oooo and what about achievements?! Either hidden or like a list that you can aim for... or both?

Some armor should become more powerful if you are being evil/good.

I have been reading all the coments for this thread. We are basically making an 8-bit Skyrim! (good thing)

Quote from: Tak on January 03, 2014, 08:59:34 PM
We are basically making an 8-bit Skyrim! (good thing)

Woo! I can't wait for the NPC forms to come out.

Sorry to burst the bubble, but it's not that easy guys. Have any of you actually made a game before? It's a lot of work. Even in a pre-made engine like RMVX Ace. These features you want don't come with the engine, they have to be built from the ground up with scripting, which is programming. Tal is only one person, and a game without any special features even is a lot of work. So asking for a 8-bit Skyrim is a tad much, most likely the game will be a linear story following a few characters, not an open world where you can do anything.

Sorry if that's blunt, but this was getting carried away.

Quote from: Anadwen on January 03, 2014, 12:57:26 AMNot a turn-based combat system.
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Also, I hope it will be possible to zoom in and out, change camera angle and switch between 1st and 3rd person view, if I'm not asking for too much.

Ehehe...er, well here we get to our first awkward divergence of ideals. xD  Cuz I LOVE turn-based battles in RPGs, so this one will be turn-based I'm afraid. ^_^;;
But!  There's resources out there to play around with the battle system, so I'll see what I can do to introduce some immediacy into it. (:

Quote from: Tak on January 03, 2014, 02:28:22 AM
The ability to choose from a variety of races!
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Oh, and there should be Demon and Angel armor, which are equal on best-in-the-game!

Quote from: zozee9 on January 03, 2014, 11:05:05 AM
But maybe a way to change your character's appearance? I mean, things like skin tone, gender, hair style/color, etc. At least when you first start... and maybe in the game too. Idk.

The main party will be set characters and won't be customizable, but there will be a variety of races present for sure!  I'm also searching for a way to include cosmetic items (that is, things that will change the character's appearance in some ways like hair and costume).  Also I'll make sure there's like super cool ultimate armors and things to collect cuz that stuff rocks!

Quote from: Anadwen on January 03, 2014, 02:33:21 AM
And raids/instances - where you are set on a fight in a certain location, smash a lot of mobs, and receive rewards in the end. It doesn't have to be done in a group, it goes alone, too.

Certain classes could have pets and/or soldiers to help them, too.

I think I'll have to leave raids and instances to MMOs! xD
But I am quite sure there are easy ways to include summoner-type classes, y'know like, classes that can bring other things in to help them. *nods*

Quote from: Tak on January 03, 2014, 02:48:57 AMI'm saying that you should be able to use a sword even if you have all the skill in magic, Even though you will suck at the sword.

Lemme see...are you saying that, if you find a sword with awesome stats for a mage class, then mages should be able to use it?  If so, not to worry!  If there's a really cool item in the game, I'll make sure you have options for who to equip it to!

Quote from: Brisinger987 on January 03, 2014, 07:19:14 AMAfflictions/Disease System...

Buffs/debuffs/status ailments/etc. will definitely be a thing.

Quote from: Nomad on January 03, 2014, 01:16:59 PMI know weapon crafting has been brought up but what about cooking? Another thing, perhaps if possible farming to grow your own foods.

Will add that in to the crafting suggestion!

Quote from: zozee9 on January 03, 2014, 01:18:21 PM... what's the style of this game? That would be nice to know. :3

EDIT: Oooo and what about achievements?! Either hidden or like a list that you can aim for... or both?

top-down RPG with sprites!
Achievements!  Hmm, haven't looked into that yet so I have noooo idea if it's possible, but I'll add it to the wishlist and we'll find out! (8

Quote from: Brisinger987 on January 03, 2014, 07:34:04 AM
Maybe the alignment system provides some sort of combat/gameplay bonuses if possible

I'll think on the alignment issue.  There are ways to do it, but the whole evil/good polarity thing that you see in games kinda bugs me. >.o  If I can find a way to do it that is also palatable to me, I'll make it happen!

Quote from: Looshi on January 04, 2014, 03:15:44 PM
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Sorry if that's blunt, but this was getting carried away.

Carried away is fine!  Aim for the stars, settle for the moon!
In case anyone was wondering, I AM IN NO WAY A REALIST.  xDD And I don't know how to do anything but to do it ALL THE EFFING WAY.
So bring it on!!  Let's hear the craziest most outlandish suggestions and wishes you guys have for the game!  Sure, we may not get the majority of them in.  Heck, we may not get HALF of them in.  But in the process of trying, we will create something AMAZING.

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TL;DR: GET MORE CARRIED AWAY CUZ IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING THE IMPOSSIBLE HAPPEN IS WHEN YOU MAKE THE AWESOME HAPPEN

Ah okay! There's a lot that can be done with RMVX Ace, but a lot of it will take learning the programming language. I used to be able to script in XP, but it's been years since I've touched it. I'm sure if I get started on learning it again and refreshing, I could help out with scripts and the like. But almost everything suggested can be done with scripts. I just didn't know if you were going to go for a project that big!

And there are ways to do achievements! Use Variables and switches! No need for a script. x3

Craziest most outlandish ideas eh?

DRUGS SEX ROCK 'N ROLL AND DUBSTEP IN A MEDIEVAL SETTING!

I am of course kidding, how about along with easter eggs, we have messages from users on the site such as myself, spicey, lion so on and so forth. that are just randomly hidden around, there can be a series of them for each player or just one or two, Just have a bunch of random signs with the messages on them.

... Tally, isn't the quote the other way around? "Aim for the moon... Even if you miss, you'll land in the stars." Maybe not. This might require google now.  8)

It's "Aim for the moon, because even if you miss, you'll land amongst the stars." Zozee! You got it right almost word for word I think.

Quote from: Tally on January 04, 2014, 09:52:59 PM
Ehehe...er, well here we get to our first awkward divergence of ideals. xD  Cuz I LOVE turn-based battles in RPGs, so this one will be turn-based I'm afraid. ^_^;;

nooooooo...

turn-based combat system destroyed so many RPGs for me... It just seems to me that it has nothing to do with real combat and is terribly unrealistic. and quite slow, too.

I can only hope it will turn out well.

I quite like turn based combat. Although that may be because my early RPG diet consisted of Pokémon and Final Fantasy.

I tried turn-based RPGs several times, but then I found LotRO and I liked its no-turns combat system much better, it's very realistic and has the excitement of really fighting an orc or warg or whatever.

also, it needs skills to concentrate on your target and keep facing it at all times, and striking it quickly.

I think that becomes a little tougher when it isn't a 3-d world, Jelly. Possible, but a lot tougher. Personally, I like both turn based games and free attack, so I really don't care. ^^

Well if they're using rpg maker >_> It makes sense to make it an rpg and use the settings the software has to offer. Not sure how much flexibility the game software has to offer itself (as I don't own it), but I think it was mentioned somewhere that's how it was going to be anyway XD (or I just presumed since I know a little about the software they'll be creating it with).

Quote from: Looshi on January 04, 2014, 09:59:49 PMI just didn't know if you were going to go for a project that big!

Aww thank you for looking out for me Looshi YOU ARE THE BEST AS ALWAYS!!
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Quote from: Sir Zane on January 04, 2014, 10:01:15 PMI am of course kidding, how about along with easter eggs, we have messages from users on the site such as myself, spicey, lion so on and so forth. that are just randomly hidden around, there can be a series of them for each player or just one or two, Just have a bunch of random signs with the messages on them.

I will lump this in under the Easter Eggs category!

Quote from: zozee9 on January 04, 2014, 10:31:26 PM... Tally, isn't the quote the other way around? "Aim for the moon... Even if you miss, you'll land in the stars." Maybe not. This might require google now.  8)

Quote from: Brisinger987 on January 05, 2014, 08:03:55 AMIt's "Aim for the moon, because even if you miss, you'll land amongst the stars." Zozee! You got it right almost word for word I think.

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Any clues?

She said no clues until they actually have a firm idea. ^^

Quote from: zozee9 on January 10, 2014, 09:22:14 PM
She said no clues until they actually have a firm idea. ^^

That was about the story, this is about everything else.

... hmm... okay. What else are you wondering about? o.O

What Zozee said!

Also!  Crafting system is confirmed AND FUNCTIONAL in game!  So I have moved it to the confirmed list and there is a topic about it here!!:

http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=16025.0

I'd really, really like to see optional side quests that NPCs can give to the players. They don't have to e done, but it's good exp and loot. Plus, it can help expand and explore the world.

How about more consequences?

For example, if the game starts in a tavern and you decide to kill someone in a bar brawl, at the end of the game before the epic boss fight you are attacked by a warrior wanting vengeance for the fallen spouse you killed.

It being able to be played on the PlayStation