Welcome to the Treyburn-Delancy Family Plotting Thread! All plots, questions, and suggestions either by current players, by players hoping to interact with the Family, or by new players are welcome here!
And, no, you do not need to read everything before you start. That would be madness!
Most of the information you need to know about the Family can be found off-site at this convenient Treyburn-Delancy Family Website (http://treyburnfamily.pbworks.com/w/page/71194386/Information), but feel free to ask your questions here or PM me!
I SHALL BE A CREATOR.
It shall be a girl!
I don't know the age yet!
Anyway, I've been avoiding the war in Connlaoth. I'll read up some on it as needed, but is it okay if I have a character who isn't really on either side? One who is just waiting to see how it plays out, and just fends for herself? :)
Of course! And she may end up choosing a side later down the road when things hit the fan! Not much has happened yet...but horribleness is planned! Horribleness!
Sure.I'll play. After I finish a certain profile or a certain someone might murder me. ^^;
Yaaaaaay! *tackle-glomp!* If anyone wants to hold a certain age for their character while they're in the character creation process, just let me know and I'll mark you down for it! I would hate for someone to have a certain thing in mind or be working on it, only to have it stolen!
Also, feel free to plot amongst yourselves for scenes and concepts... *wiggles fingers*
I haven't pinpointed an age for this dude yet. I'm thinking somewhere between 26-34. Possibly soldier type and for some reason I want him to have a horrible gambling addiction. xD
I see nothing wrong with gambling addictions! <3 It's going to be amazing!
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Of course it's okay! :) That's an awesome idea!
Do you want me to reserve the 16-18ish slot for you, or do you want them a little bit older yet than that?
Can I claim 23? :) And I shall name her... Jillian (AKA Illi (IH-lee))! ;D
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No problem, kiddos! Will do! :)
I'm not reserving an age slot for you, my dear Sharkie, because of reasons! :)
Oh this sounds like fun.
Can I claim the last young-ish age slot? I also have a character concept to run by you. Is it at all possible for an non-human recessive gene to be in the family, and have it crop up in one of the kids? Nothing extravagant, however.
Done!
I'm picturing the baby with...horns...or something, and Mom being like, "What?? And I didn't even fool around this time!" *cackles*
Anyway, sure, why not! It would be boring if everybodies looked exactly the same, like little cardboard cut-outs!
Welcome to the family!
(Also, depending on the ages your characters wind up with, it's possible another youngling could be squeezed in...so, you know, there's that!)
Awesome! Thank you. x3
Hey ivory! I would love to be a part of this. But first, I need to know who. Did they pick a side to the war?
Yay for more friends!
Re: the war and sides, that's kind of the fun part of this! It's up to you! Some of the Treyburns might choose to side with Calent and the country; others might decide to side with the mages. Some might try to make a profit from the war. Others might try to stop it. It's a fantastic chance for some drama, I think! <3
Awesome! I thought I could make a Mage in the family.
That's fine!
Do you want me to reserve an age slot for you?
Quote from: Ivory on September 03, 2013, 12:10:41 PM
I'm not reserving an age slot for you, my dear Sharkie, because of reasons! :)
Of course not! I'm a timeless entity! Like the sea!
Quote from: Paradox on September 04, 2013, 04:47:33 PM
Of course not! I'm a timeless entity! Like the sea!
Uh-huh, you keep telling yourself that...but I know the truth, old man! <3
TABLE TIME!
Just to make things easier for people, I'm going to create a little bitty table giving information about each character created. That way, when we're making up backgrounds, we have some idea of how each sibling stands!
Please answer the following questions when you get your profile done. Obviously, I can get the first three from your character profiles!
Character Age?
Character Name?
Player Name?
Role in Family/Personality (1-3 words)
Views on Magic
You can see the table at the start of the thread as an example!
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Yayyyy! I love things like this that help me keep track of characters. :3
Words: Creative, Bookworm
Views on Magic: Illi believes that people should be able to do what they want, though there should be laws restricting certain uses of magic so that people don't become an evil warlock and destroy the hearts of young maidens.
Heyo! I have a couple of different ideas, eh heh.
Could I reserve the 24ish - 27ish slot? The characters would likely just be 24.
Fantastic! Will do! <3
35 MINE! MINE!!!
Allllll yours, Sharkie!
We still have two openings, so if anyone has any c-box or posting buddies they want to drag in, now's the time! :)
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Gemin has been added to the table, as well as added to Redly and Cherie's bios! :)
You don't have to add Redly and Cherie to your bio at all -- I just feel the compulsive need to do it in order to keep everything straight!
Question!
What do the parents look like? Sure they may not have been around often, but the kids must see them from time to time, and I also would like to be sure I'm not making my character look like they shouldn't be related.
Why, no one's asked me that yet! <3
I was just going for typical Connlaothian...why, they're so plain they could be cardboard cut-outs!
Primarily blonde with a bit of red in there...green eyes... I could make up a "formal" character profile for both of them, if folks would like!
Reserve 28 for me please?
Done! I have Keira's name linked on the first page! <3
Yay!
Quote from: Ivory on September 05, 2013, 05:44:38 PM
Why, no one's asked me that yet! <3
I was just going for typical Connlaothian...why, they're so plain they could be cardboard cut-outs!
Primarily blonde with a bit of red in there...green eyes... I could make up a "formal" character profile for both of them, if folks would like!
That's what I thought. Just had to make sure! If profiles are never going to be needed, don't bother. I think we can make do. P:
Don't want to add more work on your plate! (though I would love to see what their personalities are like, I'm so curious haha)
I'm sorely tempted! (I think I need an intervention...) They may look like some of Sharkie's more colorful profiles, but you never know! <3
Oooh colourful profiles. I have to say I'm a fan of those.
Sharkie is better at the color than I am! Anyway, here they are!
Ma & Pa Treyburn, World's Worst Parents (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15293.msg150085#msg150085)
I am certainly open to suggestions and input from the rest of the Treyburn Players!
Quote from: Ivory on September 05, 2013, 06:59:06 PM
Sharkie is better at the color than I am! Anyway, here they are!
Ma & Pa Treyburn, World's Worst Parents (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15293.msg150085#msg150085)
I am certainly open to suggestions and input from the rest of the Treyburn Players!
I honestly don't know what the devil you're talking about! They sound like completely respectable human beings!
LOL sharkie. XD
Sharkie is full of lolz on things!
Florry's (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15300.msg150318#new) up!
Words: Lionhearted Doofus
Views on the magic: He's ambivalent on the matter. While being a little bit not-so-human, he can find sympathy with being treated as out of the ordinary, however he also is wary of how destructive magic can be in the wrong hands and is generally against such practices. The exception is for his siblings. They can do no wrong apparently.
Awwww! He's so adorable! I just want to hug him! <3
Glad you like him! He should be fun to play. Can't wait to start things with everyone! x3
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I feel like we're creating a family of rambunctious trouble making kids. XD
I do believe that was one of the goals. xD
LOL so true. I can just imagine all these little kids running and screaming and playing and then there's Illi, just trying to enjoy her book.
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Alongside a bunch of nuts. ;)
Huh? HUH? Anybody get my bad pun?! (probs not...)
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Quote from: Listen, beastie! on September 08, 2013, 01:24:06 PM
With all these likable siblings you guys better be careful. If something gets bad I'll have to make a Gamon reference.
"GEMIN WILL SAVE US!"
*waggles eyebrows at paradox*
rofl!
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DO EEET!
... well, if no one else is claiming... MAYBE I'LL MAKE ANOTHER.
If that's alright.
Somebody just a little younger than Redly.
And maybe she was exiled. Because she took blame for something that either the kids, the parents, or her friends did. But maybe she sneaks back in undercover from time to time?
Idk.
That's all I can think of right now. But if you want to leave the two remaining slots open, that's totes fine with me.
EDIT: Also, do we get a guild page for this? 'Cause I'm assuming our characters will interact quite a lot...
Yay! <3
I think that would be completely fine! It's not so much up to me, though, as it is up to everybody playing a Treyburn. We're a democracy! If nobody speaks up against it, I would say go ahead and do it!
Um, do we want a guild page? I don't even know what that means, really. ;_; I've never needed a guild before... *shyly* If you want to start one up, I don't see why not! Any spouses and childrens could also interact there...
Also, I made a shield! I felt pretty special last night and was inspired!
I'm not opposed to it. I was in favor of killing them off. ;P Death happens!
I don't think a guild page is necessary since we're a family, not any sort of organization. xD I think the plotting page serves us just fine , but that's me. If you wanna make it a guild, then knock yourself out!
You're so mean, Sharkie!!!
There's still one left that could be killed off, if you absolutely must see some blood!
Mmmmm. Blood! <3
Incidentally, on a completely related note, I've been playing around with the idea that Redly's father may have disowned him, as the two do not have a good relationship...at all. In fact, depending on what you had in mind, Zee, their disinheritance may be connected.
If Zee makes up a female character (or a male character who has also been disowned), the family estates would go to Braxton as the next oldest male child.
How do you feel about that, Sharkie? I know you have a pretty good idea of your character, and I don't want to mess that up!
Seriously? Braxton?
Pardon me for a moment.
*clears throat*
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
*regains his composure*
That would be hilarious.! That is like SUCH a bad idea, but hey it's not like his family knows what kind of shit he's been up to or else I suspect that daddy Treyburn would see him hang personally. LOLOLOLOL!
Seriously though, I'm not opposed to this as the character's own truly naughty behavior won't be brought to light until a much later date (or it might happen sooner than later!).
His profile will be up soon-ish. xD
Glad I could bring a smile to your otherwise entirely-too-serious face!
Looshi, if I remember right, you were talking about playing Braxton's ex-wife...so this may affect you as well.
Now, I must needs to plot with Zee!~ Away!!
1. You two are awesome.
2. A guild subforum is basically a place to put all threads from a certain group (in other words, all threads that happen either in the manor or just between the family members). It just helps organize, but we don't need it if you don't want to. We have to have an administrator set it up, if we do have one.
3. So what are you thinking for the whole disowning thing? Maybe the kids did something really illegal... and my girl or dude takes the blame from the government. But the parents know that she/he couldn't have done it alone, so Redly tells them he helped. And they disown him. Maybe? Lol. I'm just brainstorming here, let me know your ideas. :3
Quote from: Ivory on September 11, 2013, 01:54:44 PM
Looshi, if I remember right, you were talking about playing Braxton's ex-wife...so this may affect you as well.
Yes, I'm going to play her, and one of their kids! His ex-wife is Mila, Florry's blacksmith master, actually!
Zee: 1. I know.
2. It's kind of up to what everybody thinks! I don't care either way!
3. Well, as long as you don't have any solid ideas in mind... Were you thinking she's banished from all of Connlaoth? If so, is she like a wanted criminal in Connlaoth, where she'll be killed if she's caught? That really opens up all sorts of possibilities. Also, how old was she when she committed the crime, and what's her personality like? I have ideas, you see. Ideas!
Looshi: Ah, I thought I remembered seeing that somewhere! Awesomesauce! <3 Depending on what Zee and I decide for a timeline and depending on Connlaothian laws, that means Mila's kids, if she had any, would be in line following Braxton! ...If Pa Treyburn ever dies. That dude is seriously old.
OH! If Zozee goes with the banished idea because the character is a criminal The Free Folk (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=14304.new#new) can harbour her, as they do take in criminals in their midst, so they don't have to be gone from Connlaoth.
That's an awesome idea!!! Thanks, Looshi! I whole-heartedly approve!
Quote from: Looshi on September 11, 2013, 02:44:28 PM
OH! If Zozee goes with the banished idea because the character is a criminal The Free Folk (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=14304.new#new) can harbour her, as they do take in criminals in their midst, so they don't have to be gone from Connlaoth.
Haha! A shameless Free Folk plug. Shame on you!
jks. I luv you , Loosh! <3
Shhhh >_>
All of Connloath or just the town... idk. I think to answer these questions, we need to answer something more important first: what crime was committed?
Depending on the seriousness of that, she could be banished from all of Connloath and have it so she could be killed.
Also, I was thinking of making her have 'good' days and 'bad' days. The good days are very good. She's nice, gentle, and will do all she can to protect the kids. On bad days, you should lock her up in a room. She'll start pointless fights, yell at the kids, and do other mean things. You can guess what kind of day it was when the took the blame.
And Looshi, I'm totally up for that! I was actually going to make somebody for The Free Folk but never got to it, so this would be the perfect opportunity! :)
Looshi is a helper, and you be nice, Paradox! <3
Are you talking like a split personality or something less deranged?
Quote from: Ivory on September 11, 2013, 03:32:36 PM
Looshi is a helper, and you be nice, Paradox! <3
Are you talking like a split personality or something less deranged?
Sounds kinda like she wants to go for a bipolar character, but that's just a guess!
And I AM being nice! D:
Shhh not bipolar. 'Cause then I have to be scientifically accurate.
But I suppose split personality is kinda accurate. I'm not sure if I'm gonna go with it though, I'm just brainstorming. :3
The split personality could be interesting. I would advise against something like bipolar, because it's so hard to RP accurately...and, also, psychiatry is not very popular in this setting, so people just will not get it! Plus, if she was really mean to the kids, Redly would not like her very much! If her "being mean" was generally good-natured and the typical sibling stuff, that would be acceptable!
I say the split personality could be interesting because it sort of feeds -- backwards -- into one of my ideas.
Let's say your character had a twin brother. Ma & Pa Treyburn were horrified, further condemning her and causing them to distance themselves yet further from the kids. Twins Are Bad. Mmkay? For simplicity, let's call your characters John and Jane as I explain this.
John and Jane grow up the target of their parents' disdain. Everything, somehow, is always their fault...especially when it's not. And then something Bad happens to John. He dies. (Added twist: Ma & Pa Treyburn are involved!) Everyone is sad, except Ma & Pa, because they're terrible people.
Jane tries to make up for the loss of her brother in the only way she knows how -- she tries to become him. Jane herself was just the sweetest little thing; John was a bully and a bit of a nightmare. Jane, when she chooses to be Jane, continues to be wonderful -- but when she chooses to be John, she over-acts, as children are wont to do.
So it's not completely split personalities... She's well-aware that she's Jane...but it makes her feel better to pretend that John is still there. It's not entirely normal or healthy, but it's something she could, as an adult, have recovered from -- or not, because it's up to you!
Now, we get to the part where we break the law. Jane has grown up seeing both worlds: that of a pretty, noble girl...and that of a rough and tumble boy. Redly, and, I assume Braxton as well, were not gentle kids -- they liked to get dirty, to fight, and to have a good time. If that appealed to Jane's personality, she may have decided to break the law to maintain that lifestyle. If her parents tried to marry her off to some idiotic jerk-face to further their own desires for power and wealth, she could have boycotted and run to Redly for help. Redly would have been (probably) a minor officer of some sort in the military by that point...and, really, what better place for her to hide than in the military as Redly's younger brother John? This could have gone on for some time, with Redly covering for her and her parents thinking she had further disgraced them and run off...
So, let's summarize:
*We have the potential for her to have developed somewhat extreme personalities. Their exact mechanic is, of course, up to you.
*We have a crime committed. Cross-dressing in Connlaoth is very much illegal. Depending on how big of a bounty you want on her head, additional crimes can be tacked onto this for maximum naughtiness.
*We have Redly helping her commit said crime, while simultaneously pissing off his parents big-time -- but also not putting a bounty on his head too. That's important!
You're free to shoot down any part of this (or the whole thing!) of course. I, er, got carried away.
Omg ivory, marry me.
Okay, so the beginning part may be hard/impossible for me to write well enough to make it seem feasible. I like the idea, I'm just not talented enough to pull off the whole "let's honor my brother's memory by pretending to be his evil and horrible self".
But the whole cross-dressing thing? That's right up my alley.
So evil Ma & Pa want her to marry some snobby rich guy because they're greedy. But he's disgusting and drab so she goes off to Redly. Depending on what you think he would do, he could either give her the idea or she could have the idea and he says not to do it. Either way, she does it. And if he didn't want her to, there is know way Redly would rat her out at this point.
So Jane cuts her hair and dresses up as her identical twin John. Now John has been missing for some time, but the village doesn't know. Now here is where it gets fun:
Pa killed him when he was in a drunken rage. It may not have been completely purposefully, seeing that he was drunk. But it happened. This could have fueled Redly's final action of taking the kids and raising them on his own, perhaps even moving them all into his house. If this happened long enough in the past, it's possible that some of the younger kids don't even know that there used to be a John. Redly and the others, of course, don't tell them.
How does the town not notice that there's a kid missing? Well, idk if families had to be registered in that time. If they did, there is no way Ma & Pa Treyburn told the town that their kid had died. So it would be easy for her to pretend to be John. If there isn't a registration thingy, nobody would question another boy joining the army. Especially if they know of the large Treyburn family.
Now I'm scrapping this whole split personality thing. Mostly. Although her personality might not completely change like I was saying before, there may be times when she goes into deep depression or stress and gets angrier quicker than normal. Why? Because she witnessed the death of John. Probably at quite a young age, too.
Ma & Pa Treyburn don't know she saw this. She told Redly, and maybe Braxton, but nobody else. The kids that are born aren't told anything. She keeps it a secret. Ma & Pa just say that he was drafted off and couldn't come back, or something. They come up with a lie to cover Pa's tracks.
So at certain times, her mood spirals downwards. It's gotten better over time, but it still affects her.
Anyway, getting back on track, she dresses up and joins the army. This, alone, is a bad crime. But maybe while in the army, she does something more. She's pro-magic. This is probably because she has faced the gender discrimination in the army and doesn't understand why it's there. That, of course, carries onto magic. She believes that having magic doesn't change who you are and that they should be able to use their assets. So maybe she got into a bad fight with somebody who was anti-magic. In the army, fights are somewhat normal (I would imagine). But once they learn that she's a girl, that fight comes back way overblown. Orrrr maybe she stole some important documents that could have gotten mage users into trouble (or something). So her bounty is raised more.
...how does that sound? Lol. I rant a little...
PLOT TWIST: What if she has magic?! And maybe she used her magic to help someone and there was no other way but then she got caught and, of course, got in trouble. And they made her strip down or something and BAM she's actually a girl.
Okay, I'm going to need quotes to break this bad boy up...
Quote from: zozee9 on September 11, 2013, 04:39:18 PM
Okay, so the beginning part may be hard/impossible for me to write well enough to make it seem feasible. I like the idea, I'm just not talented enough to pull off the whole "let's honor my brother's memory by pretending to be his evil and horrible self".
But the whole cross-dressing thing? That's right up my alley.
That's fine. I was just spit balling for background purposes! <3 The cross-dressing is the important bit!
Quote from: zozee9 on September 11, 2013, 04:39:18 PMSo evil Ma & Pa want her to marry some snobby rich guy because they're greedy. But he's disgusting and drab so she goes off to Redly. Depending on what you think he would do, he could either give her the idea or she could have the idea and he says not to do it. Either way, she does it. And if he didn't want her to, there is know way Redly would rat her out at this point.
She probably suggested it... Redly is not so subtle!
Quote from: zozee9 on September 11, 2013, 04:39:18 PMSo Jane cuts her hair and dresses up as her identical twin John. Now John has been missing for some time, but the village doesn't know. Now here is where it gets fun:
Pa killed him when he was in a drunken rage. It may not have been completely purposefully, seeing that he was drunk. But it happened. This could have fueled Redly's final action of taking the kids and raising them on his own, perhaps even moving them all into his house. If this happened long enough in the past, it's possible that some of the younger kids don't even know that there used to be a John. Redly and the others, of course, don't tell them.
How does the town not notice that there's a kid missing? Well, idk if families had to be registered in that time. If they did, there is no way Ma & Pa Treyburn told the town that their kid had died. So it would be easy for her to pretend to be John. If there isn't a registration thingy, nobody would question another boy joining the army. Especially if they know of the large Treyburn family.
You've seen Mulan, right? If you haven't, stop whatever it is you're doing, and go watch it. Now.
The reason Mulan gets away with joining the army is because there was no real registration. She had the papers to prove she was from the family, and that was good enough.
Plus, with it being a lord and them having estates and things, they're probably a bit removed from town. Most people aren't going to know, and they certainly have better things to worry about.
What I'm saying, in a long, roundabout way, is that works perfectly!
Quote from: zozee9 on September 11, 2013, 04:39:18 PMNow I'm scrapping this whole split personality thing. Mostly. Although her personality might not completely change like I was saying before, there may be times when she goes into deep depression or stress and gets angrier quicker than normal. Why? Because she witnessed the death of John. Probably at quite a young age, too.
Ma & Pa Treyburn don't know she saw this. She told Redly, and maybe Braxton, but nobody else. The kids that are born aren't told anything. She keeps it a secret. Ma & Pa just say that he was drafted off and couldn't come back, or something. They come up with a lie to cover Pa's tracks.
So at certain times, her mood spirals downwards. It's gotten better over time, but it still affects her.
Anyway, getting back on track, she dresses up and joins the army. This, alone, is a bad crime. But maybe while in the army, she does something more. She's pro-magic. This is probably because she has faced the gender discrimination in the army and doesn't understand why it's there. That, of course, carries onto magic. She believes that having magic doesn't change who you are and that they should be able to use their assets. So maybe she got into a bad fight with somebody who was anti-magic. In the army, fights are somewhat normal (I would imagine). But once they learn that she's a girl, that fight comes back way overblown. Orrrr maybe she stole some important documents that could have gotten mage users into trouble (or something). So her bounty is raised more.
...how does that sound? Lol. I rant a little...
Especially at this point in Redly's life, he is anti-magic himself! They've all been fed the anti-magic propaganda since an early age, so it's only natural he believes it! That being said, he's still Redly, and he doesn't believe you should go around harassing the poor people. Still... If the soldiers are told somebody is an evil mage that has to be exterminated, he will whole-heartedly believe it. Why would they lie about such a menace to society? <3
While you can definitely have her be pro-mage, I think having that be the point on which she is discovered is going to cause some undue drama and tension there that we don't really need...
Instead, how about this? (Because Redly still needs to have the falling out drama with Pa, mostly!) Obviously, having their daughter vanish in the midst of a marriage arrangement is going to look Bad for them. They probably assumed she was being willful and ran away. Now, eventually, they're going to track her down. Remember, Pa is a pretty high-ranking military man. He has influences and contacts. Eventually, he's going to hear about this John character in Redly's group.
Cue a dramatic confrontation. The confrontation is probably, initially, private, but Pa is certainly not so attached to his child that he wouldn't call the guards in to arrest her for besmirching the family name. There is a scuffle. In a panic, she does what she's trained to do: she kills. It's entirely on accident and out of desperation, but once it's done, you can't take that sort of thing back... Poor unnamed guardsman! Redly (and the imaginary John) is immediately and publicly disowned, and she is forced to flee for her life!
Weeeeee you're a genius! (btw can I just mention that I always spell genius wrong? like, out of all words to mess up? really?!)
Anyway, I think that's a great idea! And that could just add to her emotional instability. Like, maybe she had finally started to get over seeing John killed. Especially since she was dressing up as him. But then that happens and it brings back those memories and she starts to think of herself as a cold blooded murderer like her dad and yeah... emotional instability.
(It could be worse. You could spell "spell" wrong. Just saying!)
I think we only have a few things left to figure out. First, how old was she when this happened? Second, why was John killed in the first place? Pa's a bastard, but I can't see him killing his own son on purpose. To a child, however, that might be how it looks...especially because I don't think he has the capability of actually showing his feelings (except the scary ones!)
Looshi & Paradox: Based on this timeline, I'm guessing that by the time Braxton married, he (and she) knew he was next in line for the title.
No idea. What time would an arranged marriage be formed? She was probably pretty young... like 16? That's when boys are added to the army, so it would make sense on this aspect, too. But the killing of Reagan (I just chose his name) happened a lot earlier. Idk when though, I need your two sense for that.
And Reagan had some magic? And he was too young to know it was forbidden, showed it to his dad, and Pa freaked out. Then Pa started throwing things at him (more or less harmless things) to get Reagan to leave. Except either a) one of the things he threw wasn't harmless or his Reagan in a vital spot or b) something he threw hit something else that feel on Reagan and killed him on impact.
Or maybe, if Reagan was older, they were arguing about something and Pa pushed him harder than he had meant to, causing Reagan to fall backwards and hit his head really heard on the corner of a table or something.
Those are the two things that pop up in my head right now. Any other ideas?
p.s. her name is Jana (I couldn't get rid of Jane and that's an irish name I just found online)
lolololol I thought you were naming the guard she killed for a second, and I was so confused!
16 works for when it started...how long do you want to say she was hiding in the ranks before she was discovered? I can see her hiding away there for a good few years... Maybe 5 if she's been lucky!
Hm, I'm not a fan of the freaking out thing, simply because I picture him being more "in control." Harsh, yes, but not that uncontrolled about it... I can definitely see him pushing him too hard, though...
Let's go with pushing too hard, then. Or, of course, maybe Pa pushed Reagan and Reagan tripped on something behind him. There are plenty of options. :3
And I think five years is perfect! I guess she isn't the most curvaceous of the Treyburn girls. XD
Armor can help a bit! <3 What age are you thinking of making her now? Just curious!
38 or 39. How close do you want Redly and her to be in age?
Doesn't make a difference to me! I just want to make sure his background is lined up OK!
Let's do 38. So she joined the army about two years after him. Does that work?
That's fine! <3 Yay!
... so when was Reagan killed?
That's up to you, my dear!
Hmm... how about when they were twelve? That's old enough for him to argue reasonably with his dad and for Jana to remember it well. Plus, then most of the kids wouldn't have been born yet. Redly and Braxton would know, I assume. Keira probably wouldn't know. And everybody younger wouldn't know either... Is it safe to assume that neither Redly nor Braxton would tell their siblings about Reagan?
Redly wouldn't... He's all for *not* completely traumatizing little children!
Hmm... so it's just the matter of whether or not Braxton would spill the beans...
Once all the sides for the Treyburn's are established, I'll add them to the character section of the war info page :3
<_< >_> <_< I'll just leave this here.
Character Age? 24
Character Name? Celandine Treyburn (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15322.0)
Player Name? Not-A-Bandit
Role in Family/Personality (1-3 words) Cursed, aggressive, loyal
Views on Magic Chell was taught that magic is a tool like any other (in secret, mind - though that's a bit of a long story), although she does often feel some shame at having a gift of it at all. She bristles easily at any accusations by knowing parties that she might use her persuasion to manipulate the situation, since she restrains from using it at all unless deemed necessary by certain figures.
So... I have a question. I was thinking that Chell would be cursed. Do you think Daddy Darryn would have gone out with any hunting parties, like in the old stories of Lords and Ladies? I imagined that she would have been cursed because of an incident prior to her birth in which he or another member of his house directly beneath his supervision ended up shooting and killing the mortal animal companion of a fae creature. Do you think that would work?
Yay for characters! <3
Sure, that works fine! Huzzah and stuff!
Yayyy! But there's more! +_+
... If she was cursed to turn into a horrible monster, and he knew this, do you think he could be convinced (or act on his own accord, to protect his family name), to have the baby left in the woods hoping that she'd die or be taken by fairies? >> << >>?
As plausible as that sounds, I guess I personally am unsure what that would bring to the Treyburn plotline... Perhaps I'm misunderstanding something, but from your description, it seems the character would not know anything about the Treyburns (and may not know she's a Treyburn, for that matter), and she would not know anything about the other Treyburns. I guess I just really don't see how a not-Treyburn Treyburn would add an RPable element to the family.
Bandito and I discussed this at length in skype, but we didn't really say anything on the forum. Basically the idea was that she'd be abandoned at birth but then found by Baldor who would want to bring her back to her family for unknown reasons. He'd be a huge pain in the rear about it to the Treyburns and may use it to mess with the family name for abandoning a perfectly healthy child that doesn't seem to have anything wrong with her. The idea was that whether or not the Treyburns took her back in Baldor would have taken care of a lot of her education.
So basically just reasons for political tension.
The question becomes: would Ma & Pa be mean enough to abandon a baby?
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Oooo idea! So let's say Ma & Pa are mean enough. Then problem solved, it happened.
But if they aren't?
Maybe Chell was still-born. Ma & Pa leave her wherever, thinking she's dead. But whatever curse that's in her takes control a little while later, and she comes to life. That way she might think she was abandoned, when in fact she was merely dead.
Oh btw here's the link for Jana (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15325.msg151055#msg151055)... I haven't really filled much in yet... but yeah.
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Lol. But she was like the fourth or fifth kid. And, you know, the whole accidentally killing your son thing adds a bit of stress, too... D:
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Pa would be more likely to kill the baby than abandon it (because, well, he is an ass...but he still wouldn't just let it die in the woods a painful, suffering death of suffering!) Knowing he intends to kill the baby, Ma may have charged a servant with leaving it somewhere. She's not a good person, mind you, but cold-blooded murder is...well, it's cold!
So the question remains: what does it add to the story? Political stuff sounds awesome, but I'm not entirely sure it's something that will come to fruition in the course of the game... It will be in the background, hanging out, doing stuff...but while Ma & Pa are very politically-minded, it's really not going to affect most of the kids, as they really dislike their parents and family.
I guess what I'm kind of hoping for here is a compromise. I like the background and the story and everything, but I would like the kids to be involved with one another to some extent. Having a sibling none of them know about and who may know nothing of them seems like sort of the opposite.
I'm really bad at explaining myself, so I hope you understand what I'm saying here...
Would it be possible to make her be older when she was abandoned? (Pa is not above killing a monster if he thinks that's what she's become, and Redly, at least, would encourage her to run.) If, maybe, the curse doesn't kick in until she's like 10 or something, then, at least, she could be a part of the family... She may not remember them well at all, and, if she were being used as political fodder, she could have easily been a bit brainwashed...but, that way, it would give us something to work with for all of the characters who would have been old enough to have known her...and they would know she's out there somewhere.
Does that make sense? (Sorry for the ueber post!)
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I'm chiming in here because this could definitely affect my character, Florry, who also has some beastly characteristics.
With the inclusion of Chell, how would Ma & Pa end up treating Florry? Badly, I suppose. Which would explain the resentment he has.
But on the topic of Chell. She and Florry could, I suppose, bond over not being quite human.
Also Ivory, if you want me to rewrite Florry, I will.
Ahhhhh potential idea.
So, if we're worried about adding Chell to the group, I may be able to help that. Illi and Chell are almost the same age. If Chell got kicked out later in her life, there's a chance those two could be quite close. To the point that they somehow manage to stay in contact this whole time. Penpal things.
And with Illi's secret magic, she'd be able to keep Chell PERFECTLY caught up with the family. If they were close, I doubt Illi would have any problems with letting Chell know her magic. In fact, she may be the only person to know Illi's magic.
And maybe Illi really got into books once Chell got cast away? She found it easier to be in a totally different world than to be in one as discriminating as theirs. Anyway, so those two could be really close and it would add a sense of connection between Chell and the family... though the penpalling is probably kept a secret.
Oh, I'm just making up reasons to go with their storyline... Originally, I was thinking of them as good people -- just really awful parents. That's kind of snowballed at this point and taken on a life all its own...
The tail should be totes fine, I think! They aren't really cold-blooded murders. Really!
So, uh...yep. I think I'm going to leave this one up to the group as a whole. I've kind of said my piece. If the majority of the Treyburns are cool with the idea as it stands, we can say Ma abandoned her in the woods as a wee thing, and then we can go from there. I would personally prefer the child be a bit older, but, again, that's up for discussion.
Also, ladies and gents!
To avoid these sorts of horrible conundrums in the future, I'm thinking it might be a good idea to discuss ideas before the character is created and we're attached! For reasons! I'm sure you understand!
This thread is a fantastic place for plotting...unless, of course, it's secret plotting! *cackle*
General family-related/family-impacting plotting should remain in this thread, however, so we can all keep abreast of one another!
So... will you add Jana to the list in the beginning? :3
No.
I just really wanted to type that and send it. Because I could! <3
I'll do it right now! Thanks for the reminder -- your post got lost in the shuffle!
Yeah, sorry about that, the both of us are very withdrawn in general. I already made a few mistakes with communication on this forum, as I'm still trying to get used to socializing normally again.
I'm not really sold on the character concept for Chell. We have a lot of mages and specialness running around with the family, I'm not excluded in this, I did add to it, and am willing to rewrite if it's needed to. I was expecting something more subdued, that doesn't stray so far away from Ivory's initial ideas and portrayal for the Treyburns.
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Woah, I didn't notice there was a conversation of this magnitude going on. I'm here, I'm here. Chell's storyline in this is far from solidified, just her personality traits, so I don't have a problem at all with altering her background to fit in with the family. She could definitely have been taken away from the family at a later age by the mother, to save her. In my earlier idea, she just ended up living with a small family relatively nearby to her actual family home for a few years. They were peasants, basically, and could have easily been related to some servants of the house that her mother had trusted.
I should probably clarify a bit on the curse - it doesn't give her any special powers, and ultimately would really just turn her into a normal animal without any human characteristics (including mental capabilities) if she ended up losing her temper completely. It doesn't turn her into a cat girl, or make her look particularly terrifying, it's just kind of inconvenient and probably wouldn't happen often after she began to grow up. The idea I had behind it was basically, "So, you decided to act like a dumb animal? Now you really are one." If it makes her seem too special, any advice would be cool. I don't really like playing characters that break immersion, so I try to avoid playing cutesy stereotypes or powerful characters. That said, I hadn't tried writing with anyone other than Beastie for a while, so I would really appreciate any criticism and advice (as well as the practice).
That's actually pretty interesting. But I would suggest to drop the mage bit.
Perhaps she was taken out and abandoned as an animal? As in, it took her a while to change back. But that depends on how Ma and Pa react. Also, instead of a curse, could it possibly genetics? Like an oops in the bloodline. It could tie in to have the same origin's as Florry's.
I just finished reading Florry's profile, and by all that is holy, he sounds absolutely adorable. In regards to the similarities, however, we'll probably have to conspire a bit! I have a few plans on the side regarding light politics, but if you're down with it, I'd really dig a bit of brainstorming.
I could see dropping the mage/bard bit. I still need to read more on magic in this game. <<; I'll admit, the amount of information there is up about this RP world is... impressive, to say in the least. On the bard-thing -- I could probably just have her really enjoying music, although I wouldn't write her up as a virtuoso by any means. Pretty enough if it's to your taste, but nothing that would move everyone alike.
Random - I read a book back in school where they described bards as not being particularly talented musicians, but just as people who were able to move others (given that they were willing to listen) to strong emotion. That concept really appealed to me, so I may be guilty of using that largely as my source of inspiration, although I didn't mimic it in truth.
Ironically, I was just thinking that the family needs a musician... :P It seems that the family, generally-speaking, is pretty talented and creative, which is something I certainly did not foresee but really love as an outcome. I may add something to Ma's profile about her creative endeavors, as, at least in the real world, it was fashionable for ladies to be able to sing, to play piano, to paint a bit, to have an ear for poetry, etc. What you decide to do, however, is up to you, as she can be creatively-endowed without being magicky in the least!
I also wanted to say that I'm so happy we can all talk about this and work together! :) Just let me know what you kids decide to do, and I'll update your character on the main page!
Regarding Ma & Pa: I obviously failed to give you guys a good picture of these two! I'm sorry! Again, I wanted to emphasize they're not really psychopathic, horrible people...just horrible parents. Yes, they're manipulative, and, yes, they always have an agenda to further their own goals -- but so do a lot of politicians and nobles back in the day.
Pa is a lifelong soldier, and he's either lost or never possessed the ability to empathize with people. Yet, he operates under a very strict sense of laws and a personal code of honor. His behavior towards the kids, while unacceptable by our standards, was always in retribution for a perceived slight or misbehavior...but he was never cruel for cruelty's sake. The problem was he expected the kids to behave like trained soldiers, and so his punishments reflected that...and escalated, of course, when the kids acted out in response. He is a mean guy...but he would have to be provoked for a response. (Think Sound of Music but darker. And no singing!)
Of the pair, Ma is the one you have to watch out for. While she genuinely does genuinely feel affection for her children, she would not hesitate to use that affection to her advantage or to use her children as pawns in politics. Pa may not be a nice guy, but his behavior is at least predictable; Ma's behavior, however, is usually untrustworthy at best, because you're never sure how long it will last...or what she wants.
Neither of them really want to see their children hurt (well, hurt senselessly) or killed, though... Still, we could certainly manufacture a reason... If they thought the other children (or themselves) were in danger is a good, solid reason, for example. But Pa wouldn't want the kid to suffer (thus, death!) and Ma wouldn't be able to let Pa cold-bloodedly kill said kid (thus abandonment! ...Which is somehow better?)
Obviously, if you have some ideas, I'd love to hear 'em!
Also, I hope this sort of clarifies...
I'll let y'all debate Bandit's idea but I do want to check something.
Are we still going with Pa accidentally murdered Reagan? I mean, if Pa was totally drunk, would it be plausible for him to push his arguing son? (Idk what they were arguing about yet... perhaps even allowing magic?) And then that push transfers to a trip backwards and into something hard... Anyway, I just wanted to make sure that we're still going through with this idea. Thanks!
Yep, though he prolly wasn't drunk. I was imagining him maybe either going to hit the kid in the mouth after Reagan gave him lip, and then Reagan reeling backwards into something or down the steps or sommat...or maybe reaching to grab him and having Reagan pull free, only to pull too hard and...well, we know how it ends.
Definitely something accidental...but something that could, from the viewpoint of a child, be seen as outright murder. Also not something he would be proud of, and it certainly could besmirch his reputation. Because there would be no registry, he also wouldn't be required to report it...
I can kind of see him not lying about it, per se, but just letting people assume Reagan had joined the military or something...and when Jana made that a reality, it would become the official lie at that point...because it would just be too good to pass up.
And, in the meantime, Reagan's name would become like a swear word in the house... Reagan's fate was something that was not, no matter what, to be discussed! (Attention all Treyburns! ...Great. Now I feel like we need a timeline post. RAWR!)
Argh! On that note, I just discovered a possible plothole... If Jana is formally being accused of cross-dressing to join the army, then people are going to know Reagan didn't join the army. Perhaps we can say she supposedly joined the army in Reagan's place, because he was too cowardly to do so....
Also, while we're on the subject: I tied in Redly losing his eye to Jana being discovered, if that's okay. Basically, what happened (in my imagination! Feel free to chip in!) was one of their superior officers happened to be chatting with Pa Treyburn. And he said something like, "Your son is lucky to have survived that blast! At least he was smart enough not to involve your younger son in something so stupid!"
And then Pa says, "Younger son? Braxton? They aren't even in the same unit."
And then the officer says, "No, no. The other one. What the devil is his name? Ah, that's right. Reagan."
And then Pa would twirl his mustaches...
Okay. I made a timeline (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhL09BMO6Q-EdHRHMzNraGIzU0tVQUlKa3BJemtMbnc#gid=0). Someone needs to strap me down and tell me to just stop... I'm like a crazy person.
I put the timeline (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhL09BMO6Q-EdHRHMzNraGIzU0tVQUlKa3BJemtMbnc#gid=0) on Google Docs so we can all use it, just so people can get an idea of how told they were when a certain event occurred...and just so we can keep everything straight.
Feel free to update it with major Treyburn-impacting events, and for major events that impacted your personal character too! (That aren't a secret, anyway!) We can also add major Connlaothian events too.
The timeline (lacking a real calendar system) is in Treyburn Time. Redly was born in T0, and it is presently year T40.
Once backgrounds are solidified, I can either move it to the main page or leave it where it's at!
*searches for the duct tape*
Good idea, Ivory.This will be especially helpful to those of us playing older characters. I like how you use the 'Treyburn Time' system. Makes things a lot less confusing, I think.
I'll take a look at this and get back to you later once my profile is actually finished. (If it ever is hohoho!)
If I wanted to be especially accurate, I would have called it the Redly Time system...but Treyburn Time has a nice ring to it, I think.
*discreetly kicks the duct tape down the basement stairs*
Quote from: Ivory on September 13, 2013, 02:56:51 PM
...but Treyburn Time has a nice ring to it, I think.
I agree! It really does!
Omg I love the timeline idea. Things like that make me really happy.
I do have a question though: When did Redly join the army?
And I think your other idea is great, too. Maybe we can do a flashback thread relating to Reagan's death sometime? That way the more minute details will be better explained. Just an idea.
Also, does Pa not tell anybody that Jana is not Reagan? I doubt he'd say... since it would harm the family reputation. But maybe that is when Redly is disowned... idk. Let me know what you think, if you understand what I'm even saying.
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Quote from: zozee9 on September 11, 2013, 07:08:09 PM
Hmm... how about when they were twelve? That's old enough for him to argue reasonably with his dad and for Jana to remember it well. Plus, then most of the kids wouldn't have been born yet. Redly and Braxton would know, I assume. Keira probably wouldn't know. And everybody younger wouldn't know either... Is it safe to assume that neither Redly nor Braxton would tell their siblings about Reagan?
Forgive my delayed reply ,but I'm still digesting everything being said here because it's a lot to take in along with my own ideas.
Anyway , would Braxton reveal secrets? Well, this really depends on two things. The first being whether or not revealing secrets would benefit him and the second being what the damage would be for revealing the secret. Is the reward worth the risk? Braxton is a jerk, but the things that he does are either done for self-preservation or for self-profit. It's rarely personal. My point being he isn't a jerk for the sake of being one.
He also , shockingly, has a scrap of honor to him though. He doesn't stab the people loyal to him in the back, but the moment their loyalty wavers...he won't hesitate to throw them under the bus and not shed a tear.
So if Red or Jana ever did anything to piss him off or dampen his favor with his parents or the nobility , he probably WOULD rat them out to make himself look better. If he's already in fair standing with them though , he wouldn't really have any reason to 'spill the beans' as Zozee put it.He's not THAT mean and though he thinks soldiering is not for woman and that trying to pass a woman for a man is really STUPID, he wouldn't protest much because it's his sister. He cares in his own way, deep down. Heh. Just don't tell him I said this. ;P
If ever suspicion came onto him (and if he's in a different unit, why would it? Not like he's going to know every single soldier in the military that isn't related to his own battalion) , all he'd have to do is deny. I see him , if he knows Jana's in the military, trying to keep his distance so that if she IS caught, then he's not in hot water. Depending on his relationship with Red, he MIGHT risk his neck to help cover up at times , but understand that he's very protective of his career in the military and would not risk blowing it for anyone. Sorry , Jana.
But yeah...he'd keep his mouth shut unless he was given a really good reason to open it.
Make sense?
I didn't even think about the fact that Braxton would be in the army at the same time... assuming he joined when he was sixteen. Even still, they were only in the army together for a year (if even). Depending on where he was in the army, he might not have even known Jana was in it. After all, can I assume that wasn't information shared throughout the family?
Quote from: zozee9 on September 13, 2013, 04:59:08 PM
I didn't even think about the fact that Braxton would be in the army at the same time... assuming he joined when he was sixteen. Even still, they were only in the army together for a year (if even). Depending on where he was in the army, he might not have even known Jana was in it. After all, can I assume that wasn't information shared throughout the family?
Saw Ivory posting so I'm going to keep this short and not get into this too much.
I wasn't implying that Braxton
WOULD know. I'm implying that it could be a possibility
IF you wanted to play that out and that if it was then this is how he would react. That's what I'm saying.
The more we talk about this , the more of a headache it's getting to keep track of so it's probably just better to assume that Braxton doesn't know since that seems to be what you're looking for.
Quote from: zozee9 on September 13, 2013, 03:40:32 PM
I do have a question though: When did Redly join the army?
And I think your other idea is great, too. Maybe we can do a flashback thread relating to Reagan's death sometime? That way the more minute details will be better explained. Just an idea.
Also, does Pa not tell anybody that Jana is not Reagan? I doubt he'd say... since it would harm the family reputation. But maybe that is when Redly is disowned... idk. Let me know what you think, if you understand what I'm even saying.
Redly probably joined at 16, or whatever the age to join is! As much as he would have hated leaving the little ones, he trusts Jana and Braxton (yes, Paradox, he trusts Braxton -- heaven knows why!) to look after them!
Yay for flashbacks! <3 That is all.
Pa would not tell people she was Reagan. I'm picturing him turning her over to the guards for impersonating a soldier...and then, before he can work out what to do about the real Reagan, she kills somebody! And that makes it easy for him to say whatever the hell he wants!
And what he says is Reagan refused to join the army, because he's a coward. And Jana tried to cover for him by taking his place, so she should be arrested! And Redly knew about it, so he is being disowned!
That gets rid of all the kids in one fell swoop.
Now, one might say, why wouldn't Redly stand up for his sister?
First, he's probably in trouble for covering it up anyway, so his word basically means nothing. Second, I'm thinking Pa (probably schemed by Ma) probably told him that if he kept his mouth shut about what actually happened to Reagan, he would remain part of the family...just be disowned. So he's basically treated like a bastard son, even though he isn't. :) That way, he's still able to help raise the kids when possible!
Does that make sense?
Quote from: Paradox on September 13, 2013, 04:39:44 PM
So if Red or Jana ever did anything to piss him off or dampen his favor with his parents or the nobility , he probably WOULD rat them out to make himself look better. If he's already in fair standing with them though , he wouldn't really have any reason to 'spill the beans' as Zozee put it.He's not THAT mean and though he thinks soldiering is not for woman and that trying to pass a woman for a man is really STUPID, he wouldn't protest much because it's his sister. He cares in his own way, deep down. Heh. Just don't tell him I said this. ;P
If ever suspicion came onto him (and if he's in a different unit, why would it? Not like he's going to know every single soldier in the military that isn't related to his own battalion) , all he'd have to do is deny. I see him , if he knows Jana's in the military, trying to keep his distance so that if she IS caught, then he's not in hot water. Depending on his relationship with Red, he MIGHT risk his neck to help cover up at times , but understand that he's very protective of his career in the military and would not risk blowing it for anyone. Sorry , Jana.
Redly wouldn't have immediately gone to blurt it to Braxton. He trusts Braxton (probably more than he should, maybe?) and believes that, like him, Braxton will always do what's best for the family. That being said, he would consider Jana's military career to be on a need-to-know basis...so Braxton wouldn't know, unless he absolutely needed to know.
Also, as far as Redly and Braxton's relationship goes, Redly probably already has Braxton pegged. He knows he can be a selfish little prick sometimes, but he accepts that about him and doesn't hold it against him. (Yet.) Obviously, if Braxton totally sells out a sibling, Redly would confront him on it and demand to know what the hell he was doing! And he would shout and swear! But he would try to understand what Braxton had done and try to rectify it, bargaining if possible. I did say he was an enabler! <3
Two things:
One, since family members aren't kept track of, would Pa need to explain where the real Reagan is? Or would the military just assume she made that name up?
Two, let's assume that Braxton doesn't know about Jana. But does know about Reagan. Jana has probably grown weary of Braxton over time... and doesn't trust him as much as Redly does.
Quote from: zozee9 on September 13, 2013, 05:21:25 PM
Two things:
One, since family members aren't kept track of, would Pa need to explain where the real Reagan is? Or would the military just assume she made that name up?
Two, let's assume that Braxton doesn't know about Jana. But does know about Reagan. Jana has probably grown weary of Braxton over time... and doesn't trust him as much as Redly does.
One, why you ask such hard questions?? He may have been able to cover it up to some extent...and the fact that no one came looking for Reagan, well, more's the better.
Two, that's something for Paradox to answer to! <3
Fine.
I have nothing much left to say here until my profile is done because there seems to be some confusion about what type of person my character is and I don't have the energy to argue about it. Peace.
Lolllllll sharkie. XD
And sorry, I always seem to find more questions... I did the same thing when I joined the Soot Wolves. Lol. I don't like a gap in my knowledge. XD
Godddd my history is becoming so long. Quick question: what are the papers that are used to identify the family called? (Or, if you want to be a little more detailed, how does she join the army?)
EDIT: History is updated. God. That's longer than anything I've written on here. Like, normal posts and all. Let me know if I should change anything (if any of you have the courageousness to read it). Thanks!
EDIT 2: Three words: Brave, strong-willed, and troubled (like a troubled spirit?)
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After googling Lannisters, may I correctly assume this was a reference to Game of Thrones? (That actually explains the pic, too... i've never watched the show so... yeah...)
I don't think they're as bad as the Lannisters... But that image made me lol
That image is fantastic, even if I hate the show.
But, yeah, not so bad as the Lannisters...
Quote from: zozee9 on September 13, 2013, 06:45:51 PM
Godddd my history is becoming so long. Quick question: what are the papers that are used to identify the family called? (Or, if you want to be a little more detailed, how does she join the army?)
EDIT: History is updated. God. That's longer than anything I've written on here. Like, normal posts and all. Let me know if I should change anything (if any of you have the courageousness to read it). Thanks!
EDIT 2: Three words: Brave, strong-willed, and troubled (like a troubled spirit?)
Uh. Unless the Makers of Connlaoth had a specific word for it, I think we can just make something up! Yes! Creativity!
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Can we please not talk about Game of Thrones? I'm kind of a hipster, and the tv show make me want to commit several counts of murder.
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Because I read the books way back before it was even a glimmer in TV's eye. I'm not saying it's right or fair, but it ticks me off on an irrational level...so I prefer not to talk about it. Hipster! Mostly this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CLCOvZOh1o
Mehhh I'm really conflicted over Jana's personality... and what her current opinion is on killing. 'Cause there's a lot of fighting going on where she stays now. And she was in the army. So I think she's just against killing innocent people... but idk! :(
P.S. Views on magic: Jana thinks that nobody should be treated differently for things they can't control. Although she used to ambivalent on the matter, she has grown to believe that magic is something needed to further to progress the country and that it is unfair to persecute mages.
The nice thing about SotE is that a profile is not set in stone once it's made. You can always update it or change it later if something changes! Sometimes, characters take on a life of their own and surprise you!
Jana's views on magic are on the main page now!
We still need to start that flashback thread...
We should start it then! But from when? Her past is full of so many flashback worthy things... btw, here are my three words: Brave, strong-willed, and troubled. I don't think you got them before. :3
Nope, I did not get them before!
I thought we could just do the scene with Pa confronting her and Redly about the army joining, and then stuff going sideways? Since my mustache-twirling example failed to clarify!
Sure, let's do that! Should we involve other active writers as others or should it be just us two?
I think, for this particular scene, it should be just the two of them...because that would sort of defeat the whole purpose if everybodies was there!
Ahhh sorry I forgot some about what we were writing. >.> Lol so many ideas are in my head for her past that I keep forgetting which one is the right one. But I remember now. :) Just start it whenever you're ready and I'll do my best to post!
Yup! From my recollection, we're doing this scene (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15270.msg151113#msg151113) because you needed an illustration to really understand what I meant! And by illustration, I meant RPing, because if I drew this, you would most certainly not find it helpful!
LOL. You know I was looking forward to a picture... but then you said you weren't doing one. So maybe I'LL do one. Eventually. Like, when I die and have all the time in the world to do nothing.
I think it'll help the most for me to just write this out.
If that's okay.
That's totes okay! I'll let you know when I get something up. It probably won't be tonight, seeing as it's already after 10, and I'm old and need my sleep...
But I'll get to it!
I will, I will!
No rush! I'm really busy and haven't been able to keep up with my threading as much as I would like to, anyway. So really, take as much time as you need. :)
Zee, here's the flashback thread! (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15351.0)
I got a bit carried away... Sorry! D:
I replied to it way late so sorry if something doesn't make sense (tell me and I'll clarify).
Also, idk if you want Ma and Pa to see her right away. There's a chance that Redly will see her and tell her off or she'll see them and quickly move away. I didn't know what you were planning, so I left that up to you. That being said, I'm totes fine if they do see her. Because we're plotting this together, feel free to power write or god write or whatever it's called. If Pa wants to grab her wrist, he'll probably succeed. Mostly because she'll be shocked. If you want to write a little bit of her reaction, feel free. We probably know her character about equally anyway, lol.
I think Beastie is dropping out (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15475.0) of this. Not sure if Bandit will follow suit. I will PM them and see.
Looshi is kinda busy so that leaves me dry on plots for Braxton at the moment (which is partly why I haven't rushed to post his profile up). I am still aiming to post him up though it'll probably be a skeletal profile.
Ah, thanks for the reminder!
That's quite alright. It just opens it up for more interest! Or possibly more dead siblings/pawns to use in dramatic plots! *pose!*
You know... it's always possible that one of the kids will sneak out to visit their favorite exiled sister. ;) If you wanna add stuff for them to do. Ivory and I are still working on that flashback thread, if any of you are interested in taking a look at that. And DRAMA is awesome!
Okay, the main page and timeline are both up to date now. I've removed the following players due to inactivity and/or statements they intended to leave SotE! (If you know something I don't about Mazlin or TheWall, let me know. I have PMed both over a month ago to gauge interest, and I never heard a reply!)
- Not-A-Bandit
- Listen, beastie!
- Mazlin (Rhythm)
- TheWall
That means we have a whole slew of openings for people wanting to play with us! Yay!
Ooh-ooh-ooh! Can I take one of the older (20s - 30s) open siblings? I'll have to think more about which one and I don't have a character in mind yet... But I'd love to get in on this!
Of course you can! :) Welcome aboard!
Let me know when you figure out what age range you would like me to reserve for you! I don't want people to get all excited for a concept and then have their age bandited! :P
Okay, I would like to take the next oldest spot. It will be a lady and she will be 33. More details to follow!
Yay for more girls! XD
BONUS! :) (And a reminder!)
All Treyburns who aren't disowned can join in the Masquerade Ball thread once Spice gets it up and moving!
*coughs* That means someone should finish up Braxton while he's not playing in the snow with his puppy! :D
Okay, here's a very short off-the-cuff description of the newest Treyburn.
Name: Dahlia Treyburn Gray
Age: 33
Family Situation: Like normal Connlaothian women, Dahlia married fairly young. Her husband was another minor noble and a soldier The two were a great couple, very much in love, both warm with a good sense of humor. They have three children, two boys and a girl. However, her husband was killed in the early ears of the war/pre-war conflicts, leaving Dahlia to manage their estate and raise their children alone.
Views of Magic: Dahlia used to be fairly liberal, if somewhat ambivalent, about magic and magic-use. She certainly didn't believe in persecuting people or hunting them down. This all changed after her husband's death. Dahlia has let her personal grief trump whatever ethical considerations she once had. Now the mages can all be put in camps or killed for all she cares. These feelings fall apart a little when confronted with a mage that she knows personally, but in general her emotions on the matter don't listen very much to reason.
Oh no! That's the saddest thing! D:
I can plug most of that into our database... Do you also want to give me a 2-3 word description of her for the chart?
I feel so sad for her, but I'm excited to have you on board. I'm so conflicted!!
I might make a Treyburn but we'll see...
XD
We'll see >_>
.... we'll see....
Also, I think Dahlia's oldest son is 13 (maybe 14). If anyone is interested in playing him, I'm open to it!
@Spice: I'll hold off on reserving a kid for you then until you're sure!
@Kleine: I'll also post something on the front page for you! :)
Hrrrn! Profiles are HARD!
But yay for more 30+year old peoples!
Gross! Don't let Spice in unless you hide the cake.
Really, I'm open to people playing any of the kids (just thought the oldest would be the most playable)... but if you're putting something up, the others are an 11 year old girl and 7 year old boy.
Okay, here (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15526.msg154919#msg154919) is a semi-complete or at least more-fleshed-out profile for Dahlia. I'm still super open to changes; I just wanted to get my thoughts out there to figure out where she fit in with the rest of the Treyburns, how she gets along with her siblings, etc.
Would the family be open to a demon dabbler? Or a giant insectoid servant with magic powers?
@kleine: Oh, she's too perfect! I love her! :) When you get a chance to come up with those 2-3 words for the chart on the main page, just let me know so I can add them!
@brisinger: Probably not so much. I'd prefer to keep the family pretty "normal" as far as things in Connlaoth go! I'm open to a little quirk here or there (like Florry's tail) but that's just a little thing, not the whole character concept, if that makes sense!
Ok then Ivory, well I asked :) Thank you for letting me know
Thanks for checking! :)
You are, of course, welcome to make up a normal human type to join in!
I think I will do, thank you :) It will probably be a 16 year old male, but don't reserve it, cause I may be a while.
Got son daemon and angel champions to write up. Fun, fun, fun.
Okay! <3 Well, if you get to it and want me to reserve it for you, just say so!
I think I will do it. It may take a while, but I'll do it.
Excellent! *cackles!*
You could probably get in on the school threads with the 16-year-old too, although she or he would obviously be a few years older than the other kids! That shouldn't stop you from crashing non-class threads, though!
Hahahaha
Since the Masquerade Ball is happening, which is like 5 years into the future, I feel like we need to address the fact Ma & Pa are Ancient and should one day die. To that end, I've decided the best way to accomplish this is to roll dice.
It's the gamer in me.
As neither of them have serious health concerns in the present day as we make up our characters, I've decided to give them each at least 2 years. I've rolled two ten-sided dice with the assumption that if they roll the max (10), they'll die at the ages of 68 and 70...which are ancient ancient ancient! However, I like the idea of them tottering around, all ancient and evil, and making Braxton wait for the Title, assuming, of course, Braxton doesn't get himself disowned somehow in the meantime!
Here are my results, with the first roll being for Ma and the second for Pa. 6+2 = 8, so Ma will die about three years after the Ball at the age of 64, which is certainly respectable! For Pa, however, I rolled 3+2 = 5, which required a follow-up roll to see what month he would die in. It turns out, he will die three short months before the Ball. This effectively leaves Braxton with the Title.
If anyone is interested in the dice rolling, here's a link to it. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/Gypsy-Bug/rpg/SotE/DiceRoll_zpsb25edada.gif)
You should do like, cause of death. Do one D6 table, with 1-6 all having a 2D6 table linked to them. Then roll the D6 to decide on a table, then whatever table you roll, fill it with 12 causes of death, and roll 2D6 to decide what killed each one of them, lol. That would be how I went about it. But awesome, Janette knows when to hold the party now.
And they are gonna HATE Janette. Fights, arguments and rebellion. She is their worst nightmare xD Almost got her finished. Here's her LINK (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15541.msg155066#msg155066)
2-3 word description
Rebellious fighter
Views on magic
She believes that the mages have every right to use their powers how they deem fit, and if that means they fight the government, then they are allowed to, and that the government just slanders them because they know that the mages could win an all out war, and just want to cut support through false prejudice.
Had they been younger, there would have been other rolls involved...but I'm pretty sure what kills them is related to their extremely advanced ages, at this point. It doesn't really matter if it's a heart attack, the flu, pneumonia, etc. It all boils down to Old Age. :)
Okay, your character is in the DB, Bri! Two questions for you:
1) Has her parents actually disowned her? If she's making a public spectacle of herself, chances are good that they either have or that she's on their last nerve!
2) Somewhere in there, you said she has betrayed family members to get what she wants. I think we all need a little more detail on that so we know how our characters feel about her! Redly, specifically, will forgive his siblings pretty much anything except that! :)
1) She's on her last straw, s she's being super sneaky about things right now, and playing nice so that she has time to prepare with the street rats for the inevitable day when she does get disowned/kicked out.
2) I'm gonna change the wording for that, cause I think it was a poor choice of words. I think she's more of an annoyance to her siblings, rather than hated.
Okay! Sounds good! Those were my only questions! :)
I'm looking for a thread for her to join with the family :)
Are there any?
Not yet there aren't, but we should really start one! Anyone have preferences on what we want to thread about? I almost feel like it has to be a special occasion to get the whole fam together. Like maybe Cherie's birthday? (To which the parents are not invited?)
Cherie's the only sibling Janette actually likes, lol. But we could invite the parents, just for the lulz. Just to see how excluded they get.
1) OMG I totally think we should have a birthday party to get the family together. I was thinking that maybe they could have some pre-ball thread, but that's way boring compared to a big family event. Do it do it do it. I'm hugely in favor.
2) I was thinking a bit about Dahlia's place in the family. Reading what's already been posted on this thread and people's character profiles, it seems like Redly/Jana/Reagan/Braxton are kind of the established quartet of "older kids" who ran amok together/were kind of in each other's confidence/etc. (correct me if I'm wrong!). I'm thinking Dahlia might not have quite made the "cut" for them to see her as one of the older kids, but she probably wouldn't identify with the younger ones (being, so far, closest in age to Braxton). So I think this might be part of the reason or at least contributed to why she's fairly independent and always kept herself busy with craftmanship/baking/learning/etc. things. Not that she NEVER would have interacted with either older or younger siblings, obviously, just that maybe she falls through the cracks of being one of the "older/parent-figure kids" and the younger (and even younger) next groups of kids. If any of that makes any sense.
I think in general she wouldn't have really cared too much about it, but probably is/was a bit resentful when someone like Redly tried to act more like a father than a brother to her.
I was also thinking that, at least of the older kids, she might be the one that Ma&Pa disapprove of the least. I imagine they didn't really take much notice of her most of the time growing up since I don't think she caused any huge schenanigans. But were probably pleasantly surprised when she magically produced a suitable husband of appropriate rank at the proper marrying age and actually got married and had children, etc. Dahlia probably doesn't think much of this, but I thought it would probably make sense, so I thought I'd throw it out there.
3) Maybe it's just because I'm one of the older people at SotE, but do we really have to call 50s/60s "ancient?" D:
4) Okay, I guess I can't put off making this three-word thing forever, even though I think that's the hardest kind of description to make ever! I'll give you a choice between "sharp-minded, independent mother" and "grieving, angry widow." >.>
Lol, wonder what Dahlia would think of how Janette behaves.
1) Well, we could do pre-ball too! That would also actually be fun, because I was just telling Paradox that the ball should be Cherie's debut to society...which she will actually hate! (And this will no doubt require Dahlia's expertise and all of her mothering skills to get Cherie to wear an actual dress and to keep it clean and neat!) The only problem with the pre-ball thread is that Janette and likely Jana would not be willing (in Janette's case) or able (in Jana's) to attend, as I'm certain Ma would be hovering!
2) You can certainly make Dahlia independent if you like! She definitely is in that "swing" age group and was probably the first kid Redly tried to act more like a father towards...but a 12-year-old trying to look after a 4-year-old (not to mention the other siblings) probably isn't going to end well! This, of course, isn't going to stop Redly from worrying about her and trying to look after her anyway! <3 Though he would definitely respect the fact she can take care of herself...he'd just sneak into her room to tuck her in at night and that sort of cuteness!
3) Fair enough! <3
4) That's the point -- it's a neat little word exercise! Sometimes writing succinctly is harder than writing a lot!
Janette would love to go to the masquerade ball! Lol, lots of nobles to pickpocket successfully. I have plans already ;) She's gonna disgrace herself so badly.
Just so long as you know there will be consequences if she's caught! :) And that Paradox (Braxton) will no doubt be in charge of doling out said consequences!
You mean Braxton would dole out punishment with Ma Treyburn breathing down his neck. Too bad the old toad didn't croak along with daddy! Life is hard!
Well, somebody has to make Braxton take a bath!
Janette will probably give him the finger, slap her mother in the face and leave to live life as a commoner, nabbing his wallet on the way out.
Not after arranging to broadcast her bedding of a rival/enemy household's best man.
Welcome to the Treyburn household... Janette! ;)
That slapping thing is *not* going to go over so well with any of the kids, I think, as much as they dislike her... ;_; She might be conniving and borderline sociopathic, but she's still their mother and practically an invalid!
Janette won't care by that point, she'll have had little enough interaction with most of her family to consider the Street Rats her family now, and the only one she will say goodbye to will be Cherie if she des that :) She's not nice really.
Heh. Jan's attitude would amuse him greatly, but slapping Ma would not which is saying a lot because Braxton himself is kind of a jerk . I won't say how he'll react, but I will say this: every action reaps consequences and not all of them should your character be immune to. Think about what those consequences might be realistically and play it smart. I've no objections to family drama , but let's not go over the top eh? ;) Ah, but we'll get to that bridge when we cross it, I suppose!
Well, I wasn't necessarily trying to make Dahlia intentionally separate. I just grew up with a whole slew of cousins, and we definitely broke ourselves into different "age group cliques" and there were a few poor souls who fell in between (thankfully not me, mwaha!). And it just seemed like there was already a kind of established group dynamic between the oldest four.
I think it makes sense to either do a pre-ball "coming out" party or a birthday party, just because the events are kind of similar? I think either would be fun! I haven't thought about where the Gray estate is, but if they siblings wanted to do something on the down-low without the parents/Ma knowing, she could host said party (either one) there. I kind of like the idea of Old, Ancient, Invalid Ma being there though. :P
But whatever the event is, I think a family thread would be tons of fun!!!
Oh, no, that's fine! I was just picturing her being independent and telling Redly to stop fussing over her! <3
We could also always do a flashback thread to a previous event...
Well Janette hasn't got the most trustworthy of all crowds to fall back on, so things could go awry :) Street rats have a tendency to take what you have and bugger off, or these ones do. They're just using her.
So she won't come off well for any of this stuff (hey, watch me make this stuff up as I go! Lol)
Omgomgomg ball.
You're right, Jana probably couldn't get in. But what is the huge ball event? Because I'm sure she could make an appearance as a "dashing night in shining armor"... and she might be able to evade ma's eyes if she cleans herself up enough. She has aged some since the big event.
However, either way, I do have another character I can sneak in there. ;) Jilli would love a ball. And she'd be waiting for an actual night in shining armor, of course. :)
Well, Ma won't be going to the actual ball... (She wants Brax to show his independence and show that he knows what he's doing, rather than have her presence overshadow that!) Maybe they can send her to bed so Jana can come too! Redly supports this plan!
lololol....a decision Ma might soon regret making!
Maaaaybe! >>;
*Braxton doesn't take a bath just to spite her* "Real men don't bathe! RAWR!" *stench causes everyone at the ball to gasp for breath and pass out*
Oh, Paradox. You are so special! <3
If Ma isn't there, she might behave herself. Might. Depends on just how attractive the man from the enemy household is.
It is a masquerade ball, after all ;) She can be whoever she wants to be, and be with whoever she wants. Think Romeo and Juliet, only, Romeo is just a poor sucker in the enemy house getting played.
Do they Treyburns have an enemy house?
If they don't, Jane will make one for them, lol. She's really not nobility, at all.
Torak and Sophia might find her on the verge of starvation and feel sorry if she gets kicked out. Might. Just thinking about stuff.
Nope, the Treyburns currently do not have an enemy house. That isn't to say they don't have enemies, however. Pa's a jerk, Ma has no problem betraying her allies, and the kids, well... I can definitely see there being some lingering resentment from classmates who felt bullied (although, I can honestly say they probably started it -- it's just that the Treyburns as a whole finished it!)
So if you or if anyone else wants to make up something for teh dramaz, you go right ahead!
Anyone fancy walking in on Janette feeding her snake? The big, venomous monster snake that is moderately intelligent? Or some other shenanigan?
This was painful. Mmm'kay? (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15555.msg155357;topicseen#msg155357) (edit : god am I lazy today)
So...Braxton Treyburn is finally uh....he has a profile of sorts.
Anyways! Described in three words: Looks Like Pa That hairy bastard
View on mages/magic/war? : Supports the anti-mage/magic propaganda publicly. Privately, he kinda doesn't give a shit. Stay out of his way and he'll stay out of yours.
How's that? :P
Lol I have to update Jana and Jilli's profiles with all the new family members showing up. XD I'll let you guys know once that's done.
Lol, nailed Janette's and Braxtion's relationship.
Go, Treyburns, go!
http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15557.new#new
A note of clarification on Redly:
Redly has been disowned. That is true. However, he struck a deal with his parents so that he could still attend events, birthdays, and holidays. They basically treat him as a bastard son and have no trouble pawning off the little kids on him when they need him to babysit.
If you need any further clarification, you let me know!
I'll probably try to reiterate this in the thread itself, but can we please establish some sort of posting order for the Pre-Masquerade Ball thread so that it doesn't get too chaotic for some of us to follow? The Treyburns are hectic enough as it is! I love crazy and all but not when I'm confused as well! ;D Thanks!
Yeeeeeah, I think that would be best. Especially with all of spread out throughout the world! (Except me and Zee. Minnesota pride!)
Minnesota is the BEST. And yeah, I try to stay in order for threads. :3 Unless there is a specific reason that I feel like I should post first (in other words, their character interacts in mine in such a way that someone else couldn't really logically post).
That's fine,Zozee. I am merely voicing my concern ahead of time. ;) I'm not so worried about dialogue or scenes that my character is not part of so much as I'm thinking about the passing of time and anything that affects my character, if that makes sense. I don't want Braxton to be left in time for being a slow old man! It would make me sad! I wrote his profile! He can't be forevers alone yet! He needs to torture the kids and needs to be tortured by them!
A posting order sounds sensible.
EDIT: And Kleine, Dahlia didn't even acknowledge Jane... She's gonna remember that.
LOL I TOTALLY DIDN'T REALIZE DAHLIA WAS AN ACTUAL CHARACTER.
OMG sorry Klei! I haven't read the new profiles so I just kinda skipped over it. >.> Let me know if you want me to change anything from my previous post... >.>
Up to you, Zoz. If you'd rather they chat a bit while getting Jillian ready, go ahead and edit it and I'll change mine, otherwise it's okay if you leave it.
Hahahahaha! The shenanigans are starting early, I see! <3 You guys are great!!
Hey, Bris...
So, regarding that snake... I was okay with it being a big snake with poison, because, you know, it could happen in a fantasy setting. However, please keep in mind that we are trying to keep this family fairly normal-ish. This means that the snake can be 8 feet long. It can be poisonous. It can have normal snake-intelligence, and I'll even allow it to act like a guard snake. Because, sure, it could happen in a fantasy setting.
That being said... It canNOT be a "super" snake. That sort of concept is not appropriate for this particular threading situation.
If that wasn't made clear to you earlier, I apologize, but I did not understand the entire concept.
Thanks!
I'll edit mine. :3
Lol, well it's not big for a snake. Double or triple the size, then it's big... Longest snake ever found was 33 feet long xD So Megraph is tiny, lol
And sure, I can tone down the intelligence of said snake. "Supersnake" probably wasn't my best analogy xD
I was thinking along the lines of a smaller, poisonous Nagini? (Harry Potter reference from a guy, big shock!) Not quite that intelligent, but along the lines of Nagini, minus the parseltongue
I never read HP, sorry.
Suffice it to say, that as long as it doesn't push the bounds of reality too terribly far, it's fine. Just don't get crazy, 'kay?
I won't, don't worry :)
If it's okay with everyone, could I reserve the 24-28 year-old sibling? Not got a solid idea in my head yet, but I've been snooping from afar and I'd like to join the Treyburn clan :P
Probably going to be male though, since a lot of the siblings seem to be female already.
Yaaaaaaaay! <3 Vivi! Welcome!
NEW SIBLINGS! <3
Geeze, Ma, how many more are ya gonna have? :o
Quote from: Paradox on November 02, 2013, 12:16:09 PM
Geeze, Ma, how many more are ya gonna have? :o
OMGERD, SO MANY TREYBURNS
SO MANY
Just the one!!
An older sibling?! Janette loves abusing older siblings
Quote from: Brisinger987 on November 02, 2013, 12:36:41 PM
An older sibling?! Janette loves abusing older siblings
Um, Cherie's the only sibling younger than her so um..
there can only BE older siblings 8D
SHHHHHH!
Posting order update!
Basically, we're going to do this in rounds rather than a specific order to allow everyone to post. Each player gets to post *once* per round in any order. This means that you cannot post again until everyone else in the thread has posted. Currently, we have five people in the thread: Ivory, Paradox, Kleine, Zee, and Brisinger. Once everyone has posted, a new round begins with my post. So essentially, if you post twice before I do, you're doing it wrong.
In our current round, we are waiting for Zee and Paradox to post. Only once they have both posted can either myself, Kleine, or Brisinger post.
If the posting order continues to be ignored, the person skipping the order will be asked to leave the pre-ball thread. Repeated infractions will result in your character being stricken from the Family and a place opening for a new player. This is your one and only warning.
Never done a thread like this before.... Should be interesting, for sure.
I've never officially done a thread like this... but I kind of do it anyway. Like, unless someone is really late in their posting, I'll just wait for everyone else to reply first. :3
I've seen other group threads actually list posting orders on their plotting threads once their thread is up. Would it help if you guys listed the actual posting order?
And if you hvae it listed XD ignore my post
<3 Oh wait, my sleepy brain read this wrong 8D
I see how the group posting thing works now for you guys X3
*slow!*
Spicyyyy are you gonna make a treyburn? ;) I still think you should!
Come on, it's the last spot, don't miss out ;)
Quote from: visualspice on November 03, 2013, 07:46:40 AM
<3 Oh wait, my sleepy brain read this wrong 8D
I see how the group posting thing works now for you guys X3
*slow!*
Yep, so, basically, if you post twice before I post, you're doing it wrong and posting out of order, and it will not be tolerated.
Easy peasy!
Quote from: zozee9 on November 03, 2013, 07:59:02 AM
Spicyyyy are you gonna make a treyburn? ;) I still think you should!
Quote from: Brisinger987 on November 03, 2013, 08:01:34 AM
Come on, it's the last spot, don't miss out ;)
:|
Come on spice! Come on spice! Come on spice! GOOOOO, SPICE!
Hey, Bri...
The rest of the group isn't really anywhere near Brax's room...so while you can certainly move your character from point A to point B, I don't think Janette would have caught that whole conversation...
Thanks!
Off to the editing mode as soon as I get the chance Ivory, caught up in homework, so it was kind of rushed... :/
And Cherie isn't going to like what Janette has done in the school thread
Thanks, man. It was just kind of important, because if Ma were in hearing range, Redly wouldn't have said it!
What if I snuck in an 18 year old warrior for the church to be considered as part of the Treyburns?
<3 just sayin' I might consider something.
Though I believe all the slots are filled... still!
*hoovers like a ghost around vries* D;
Guys and gals, feel free to skip me this posting round in the Shenanigans thread (since you're waiting on me and I'm presently at a loss for what to post) . I'll play catch up next round unless you need me to post now (it doesn't seem like it).
We neeeeeed you!! Just kidding! :)>
Also, don't forget, kiddos, whomever is attending the first 'Masked Ball'- it has finally begun (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15587.msg156752#msg156752)!
I want you to join, Spicy. But of course, that's up to Ivory. <3
As for the ball thread, I'll be sticking Illi in there. Jana might wait a little longer... she'd probably go in late, anyway. To attract less attention.
She has decided not to be a Treyburn!
That's just the way she rolls~
Nooooooooooooo D:
Quote from: zozee9 on November 08, 2013, 09:18:53 PM
Nooooooooooooo D:
oh but you can always join me with any one of my number of available characters <3
I has so many!
The possibilities are endless! <3
Working on the profile for my Treyburn character finally (who, by the way, I will be calling Oscar), and I was just thinking... Shall I throw a spanner in the works by making him the mage sibling? From what I've seen, there isn't one at the moment.
I don't know... Might be interesting?
That would be interesting...
Hey Viv!
Don't feel pressured to fill a certain role in the family - play something you want to play! If you do want to play a mage, that's okay... It will certainly allow you to RP in certain threads and certain ideas, however, your character will fast become Wanted within Connlaoth and will be faced with being hunted, possible deportation to the camps, etc. It all makes for good drama, but those themes can be very heavy and hard to play out!
Plus, I reserved the last Treyburn to use for plot purposes, so we will definitely have a mage if you choose not to play one! If you do choose to play a mage, that is completely fine too! And that other Treyburn character can be used in plots and schemes!
Hmm. Actually, when you put it that way... Don't get me wrong, I'm genuinely keen on playing a mage, but thinking about his personality something so heavy might just eat poor Oscar alive. I'll probably leave him as-is then, and create a mage character next time. All the heavy stuff would be better for a slightly tougher character, and it'd be nice to spend more time around the Treyburn's.
So let the other Treyburn have that job. Oscar's probably going to sympathise anyway.
Yeeeeah, poor Oscar! :) I had the general idea of what you wanted to play, which is the only reason I brought it up in the first place! No worries!
That being said, if you know anyone else wanting to play a Treyburn, we can always use friends of the family, cousins, and some of the mini-Treyburns (kids of PCs!) :D Any of them could, also, potentially be mages!
Yeah, good call. :P
Speaking of which: Oscar Treyburn (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15595.msg157008#new) is done!
2-3 word description:
Kind-hearted Scholar.
Views on magic:
Oscar feels that the war is completely unnecessary, and sympathises with the mages. He's always considered magic just to be another interesting fact of life, and doesn't think that anyone should be treated the way those poor people are. He is disgusted that mages are being rounded up and slandered, but fear for his family keeps him from being too loud.
Oscar is awesome! <3
One question, though. Did you mean astrology or astronomy? I'm nit-picking! :P Actually, the only reason I ask is that astrology could seem...magicky, to a degree!...and so now I am curious! (lawls, I had to google the definitions to make sure I was thinking of the right one!)
Thank you! <3
Whoops! I meant astronomy. I always get them mixed up. I'll change that now!
Are any siblings feeling up to comforting Janette? I'm going to have her go through a traumatic experience, very heavy themes, mainly revolving around the emotional aftermath of a rape. Only the aftermath, her emotional distress, and her trauma.
If any sisters do feel they can handle this task, and if any rpers are feeling brave enough to deal with it, I'm open to suggestions! If there are no takers, I'll assume she represses it with amnesiac potions.
Not for the faint hearted.
NOTE: I will NOT be playing out the rape, not even in flashbacks, just her emotions.
Those words are so hard! :)
Feel free to have Oscar join the fray in the Pre-Ball Shenanigans Thread (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15557.msg156491;boardseen#new) or join any other open threads throughout Connlaoth -- like the Ball, to which he would be invited and, possibly, even emotionally blackmailed into attending by his mother!
Quote from: Brisinger987 on November 09, 2013, 02:35:16 PM
Are any siblings feeling up to comforting Janette? I'm going to have her go through a traumatic experience, very heavy themes, mainly revolving around the emotional aftermath of a rape. Only the aftermath, her emotional distress, and her trauma.
If any sisters do feel they can handle this task, and if any rpers are feeling brave enough to deal with it, I'm open to suggestions! If there are no takers, I'll assume she represses it with amnesiac potions.
Not for the faint hearted.
NOTE: I will NOT be playing out the rape, not even in flashbacks, just her emotions.
I'm...honestly not so sure Cherie would be good at that... Oh, she would try, and she would probably decide to go shoot the bastard afterwards, but... Emotionally, she's ill-equipped herself to process that!
Oh, he's definitely going to be press-ganged into it by his mother. I'll post in the Ball plotting thread and then join the pre-ball shenanigans!
Quote from: Ivory on November 09, 2013, 02:45:52 PM
I'm...honestly not so sure Cherie would be good at that... Oh, she would try, and she would probably decide to go shoot the bastard afterwards, but... Emotionally, she's ill-equipped herself to process that!
If Cherie wants to try, she's more than welcome to! Janette would be pretty obvious about something being up. Being quiet, not even joking, not smiling at pranks, hiding away in her room, with the loud sounds of crying, that sort of thing.
And when Janette is half okay emotionally, she's gonna make her first kill. Although her emotional distress over her first kill will be a different, later topic.
But if you want Ivory, and if Cherie feels she can try? Maybe multiple family members can get involved! I'm open to all ideas and suggestions guys!
Quote from: Brisinger987 on November 09, 2013, 02:49:57 PM
If Cherie wants to try, she's more than welcome to! Janette would be pretty obvious about something being up. Being quiet, not even joking, not smiling at pranks, hiding away in her room, with the loud sounds of crying, that sort of thing.
And when Janette is half okay emotionally, she's gonna make her first kill. Although her emotional distress over her first kill will be a different, later topic.
But if you want Ivory, and if Cherie feels she can try? Maybe multiple family members can get involved! I'm open to all ideas and suggestions guys!
I don't know... I would love to help you out, but Cherie is pretty delicate, and that's pretty dark stuff. I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I want to change her character that dramatically. She was designed to be a light, airy character...
Same with Illi. She probs reads about that kind of stuff, but I doubt she could handle it in reality.
However, if you want dark and intense, Jana is always an option... But then the problem becomes when they would talk to each other.
Also, does anyone have any ideas for what Jana could dress up as? Something that wouldn't make her stand out too much... and preferably would be at least somewhat easy to move in. It also needs to cover up enough of her (the mask will help) so that she wouldn't be recognizable from the posters. :3
Is she going as a boy or a girl, Zee?
That's fair enough! I can respect that :)
Any tougher, harder skinned Treyburns who are gonna avoid Janette stealing to repress her memory?
Even Jana would know that something was severely wrong with Janette if she wasn't doing anything but hiding in her room, not going out, not laughing at jokes, and genuinely looking just traumatised. And they are sisters, even if they hardly spend time together. Janette has no job and she'd be in her room trying desperately to cope with the reality of it.
I suppose Janette could be wandering the streets with Megraph round her shoulders as protection, and Jana could bump into her sister?
Ahhhh singer that isn't quite so accurate. At least my guess is so.
Keep in mind that Janette would have no memories of Jana living with her (Jana got exiled a year after Janette was born). Now Jana does try to visit twice a year, but she can't usually stay for too long. My guess is a week or two. So while Jana will try to keep up with everything happening with her siblings and try to understand them, it's a bit tough. And if she hasn't seen Janette in a while (I think I'll say she hasn't been in town for a year, therefore making her appearance even more exciting to the family), she might just assume that the girl has changed.
However, that isn't to say she won't ask Redly about it. Or, if she found Janette crying, she would definitely do something about it. She'd probably be reminded about her younger days, actually.
And Ivory... I still don't know. >.> Whichever she thinks would be easier to hide her identity as. So if you have any ideas on that even, it would be awesome.
Hey, Bris, uh, regarding your comment in the Ball plotting thread (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15548.msg157032;topicseen#msg157032)... That's not really a thing, unless you yourself is making it a thing... We haven't really plotted out the family having an enemy wherein that would make sense... You can certainly do it, but you're going to be basically RPing with yourself! D:
Right, ok then... How about: Jana visits for her week, and at the beginning of the week, Janette is her usual self. It happens one or two days into the week, Janette doesn't come home for a night, and everyone assumes she's gone to make a man booty call.
She comes home the next day, bruised, quiet, and really out of character, and Jana notices? Perhaps she goes to listen at Janette's door and hears her crying the day after?
That's my suggestion for that, and Jana should go as a man. Makes things fun. A woman playing a woman who is pretending to be a man!
And I'm gonna make it a thing Ivory! They're gonna be a thing! lol.
Thought: who said this can't be the reason there's tension between two families? Perhaps they're one of the bigger families? And they consider Janette some lower class filth, and they boil it down to Ma and Pa Treyburn not raising their kids well enough?
First off, I doubt the Treyburn's have an enemy house. Janette, however, is probably unapproved of in many families... so it could just be the girl herself. And if she got into a thing with some known rebellious boy, that could create the whole Romeo and Juliet effect—without having enemy houses. I feel like that's more realistic (and less cheesy, lol). That's just my own opinion, however.
Also, if she got raped, would she really even sleep with a stranger? I feel like she'd be too traumatized...
A woman playing a woman who is pretending to be a man. Am I the first woman? Lol. XD
And maybe a man... Actually, I can totally imagine this. I mean, first off, Jana makes an attractive dude. So if she dresses that up well, the ladies will totally be ogling her. And Jana would use that to try to get information out. ;) She's sneakyyyy.
I like your idea Zoz, it sounds more realistic. Janette wouldn't exactly be what families want as wife material, would she? But I like that idea Zoz, thank you!
And she wouldn't do that, that would be the general assumption as to why she didn't come home, not because she was lying either: unconscious/too traumatised to move (which would be why she ACTUALLY didn't turn up back at home)
Yes you are Zoz! Lol xD
Lol, it's like we're plotting out a game of The 39 Steps! If you ever get to see that play, it's hilarious.
... okay I'm really confused about the whole rape thing.
1. Did she really get raped?
2. Will she sleep with someone after the ball?
3. How many people do you suspect she has slept with? (Haha this is more of a curiosity question...)
1. Yes, she did.
2. Most likely. She'll probably still repress it (the rape) with amnesiac potions, just she won't become reliant on them, so she'll go back to roughly how she was.
3. 6, 7, maybe 8 people by the time of the rape? She has a particular taste, usually more physical and lust than romance. She isn't one for romance.
1. Okay.
2. Ohhh potions. So she's trying to forget it?
3. Okay.
Thnxies. :3
Okay. All of that makes sense, and I'm going to leave you to plot it, but...
I don't think Connlaoth HAS amnesia potions.
Which isn't to say she can't use the power of her brain to repress it.
BRAIN POWER.
oh yeah i totally forgot to mention this earlier, but don't forget that Illi does have magic... does that affect anything? I mean, she never uses it. Or, more accurately, people never see it. It's in her writing.
But if this would be a huge problem, I can just cross it out.
Nope, I hadn't forgotten!
It's up to you if people ever find out about her magic. I was under the impression she was going to hide it away forever! <3 This means, of course, that she's not likely to be discovered unless she *does* tell someone...
Again, totally up to you how you want to play that out and how you want things to fall out! <3
Yeah, she's desperate to forget it. By any means possible, drink, drugs, potions, blows to the head. Anything that will make her forget it happened.
She'll probably have it boil down to drink, drugs or just mental repression.
So if you still wanted to do it Zoz, we could?
The only person I can imagine Illi telling about her magic is Redly. And something big would have to happen. Because even though Illi knows that Redly would keep her secret, she wouldn't want him judging her or being stressed because of it.
So unless Illi someday moves out of Connloath (which actually will probably happen... she has more of a Serendipity soul), her magic is staying secret.
And let's do it, Bri! Except I have one last thing.
What if the rape happens after the ball? I say this simply because of the fact that Jana will not be in town until the ball. Soooo if she's going to observe change in Janette's behavior, it would have to be afterwards.
Yeah, it can happen after the ball! That would be fine! Perhaps it can be in the days just after the ball? That would make sense....
Sounds good! So we might want to delay this a little while, then.
Paradox is going to be finishing off the round. After he posts, it's a new round, so have at! :D
Awesome, I'll probably take Janette out of the post for a bit, two or three rounds I think.
And yeah, Zoz, if we hold off on it for a while.
Hey, all! Just a reminder!
Even though we're not done with the pre-ball thread, feel free to spill your characters over into the actual ball for some good old-fashioned bally fun!
Oh yeah, I had a question about that! Will they all go in together?
Also, just a heads up for everyone! Jana will eventually make her way into the pre-ball, but your characters won't recognize her. ;) Anyway, she'll have a story of some sort that will make it so it's not strange for her to go in with the Treyburns. If any of you have ideas for that, that would be great.
I don't know. I already threw Dahlia in, so.... >.>
Technically, yes, they would enter together, but you can go ahead and just start playing in there!
Look, everyone! It's another $@%@# Treyburn!
Trevian Treyburn (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15604.new#new) is a WIP. Because I'm tired and my roommate watched Parks & Recreation literally all day today, so I got nothing done because I'm far too lazy to actually get up and move to a room without a TV in order to concentrate. Don't judge me!
You can judge Trevian all you like though! He doesn't mind, and he's judging right back! He's quite pretty, though. *pets him* I like him. I'll finish him up in the next few days and get him on the front page of this thread, but, in the meantime, you all can look at his profile. He's not particularly close to any of the siblings, but he's got a soft spot for Oscar and thanks Angsar for Dahlia -- because at least one of them has a good head on their shoulders!
I hope this means that Trevian will have a bit of Ron Swanson in him.
I hate that show (except not so much.) *cries so much!* John wouldn't go to bed until the season ended. And the season would not end! Why wouldn't it end??
Alright, everyone! After checking with virtually everyone, we're changing a few details around to better suit the storyline of the Civil War.
"Present Day" (the day listed in your profiles and on the main page) takes place approximately 2 years after Calent has ascended the throne.
The "first battle" (aka massacre) of that village happens in about 1 year.
The ball happens in about 3 years.
So that everyone is on the same page, I am giving everyone (except the three oldest kids for pre-established plot reasons) this one time opportunity to decrease your characters' ages by up to 3 years. You do not HAVE to change your characters' ages if you are happy with your current age. (Basically, that would make them the age most of you thought they were during the Ball thread!)
If you decide to change your age, please let me know so I can update the main page! Thanks, all!
Illi is 21! Decreased her age by two years. :3
I'll make Florry 19, so there's at least two years between him an Illi, so Ma isn't having one kid right after another. xD
I'm going to go ahead and make Dahlia 30 at "present day" then. And her husband would have died that year, or maybe a year later. If you need me to pin that down, I can.
Since I don't imagine playing Dahlia much before the Ball (except for my thread with Vivi; takes place immediately after Kerry dies), I'm probably going to leave the age in per profile at 33... unless you'd prefer I change that, then I can.
In that case, I'll take that decrease for Oscar and make him 23 in the present day, so he'd be... 25 or 26 in the ball thread? From what I'm reading, this ball is a bit of a leap forwards in time, right? I think that works out. Of course, that depends on Illi's age, since if she doesn't change the order of siblings would be messed up...
I'll keep my other characters as-is, since they have nothing to do with the ball and would be in present day anyway.
... she's 21. And the ball thread is five years in the future, just so you know. (Illi is 26 in it.)
ALSO Jana will be joining the pre-ball thread soon. Meaning she will be in there as soon as I have time to write a good postie. I've talked about this some with Ivy, but figured I should make sure you all knew the details.
First and probably least important, nobody will know who Jana is at first. This is more just for comedy. I mean, she's wearing a costume and I'm pretty sure everyone expected her to come as a girl. Redly will figure it out, since they've spent the most time together. But the rest of your characters shouldn't—at least not right away.
Secondly, just remember that all the kids should know how to behave around Jana. She'll let them know her disguise (who she herself is going as) and that's who they will have to pretend she is. None of the kids should go up to her at the ball (unless your character is a bit foolish) since I'm assuming they would all play it on the safe side and pretend not to know who she is. That isn't to say that Jana won't take a risk and go up to one of her siblings if it seems like they're in trouble.
I feel like I had a third thing, but I forgot it. So adios for now!
Did I read something wrong? I thought the ball was 3 years in the future now?
What? Ivory said it's in three years...
Whoops i'm wrong then. XD
Quote from: Ivory on November 19, 2013, 06:51:45 PM
"Present Day" (the day listed in your profiles and on the main page) takes place approximately 2 years after Calent has ascended the throne.
The "first battle" (aka massacre) of that village happens in about 1 year.
The ball happens in about 3 years.
Magical timey wimey things!
Anyway, don't worry about shifting your age just because someone else around you did... We can always do a little bit of tweaking if we have to in order to have it all make sense. It's the magic of writing! :D
I think I've heard from everybody except Bris... Bris, do you want to keep Janette the same age or drop it by a few years?
Janette will stay where she is, haha
Okay, I believe I have the ages updated on the main page. Feel free to leave your profiles as is; those are up to you to maintain and should make sense primarily to you rather than to me! I'm going to work on our Timeline next. Again, feel absolutely feel to add (or request me to add) anything to the Timeline for your characters if they're big, important dates...like Red losing his eye, Jana being banished, or Dahlia's husband dying. I've also added a few war events to the Timeline (in red!) so we know where we stand next to all of Connlaoth to keep these confusing date things from happening again!
One more quick comment from me before I leave you all to your role-playing!
The Timeline is updated. You'll find the link in the very first post in this thread.
You will also find a link to Ma & Pa there as well, as I've had a few questions about where their profile is hiding!
I'd like to do tons more role-playing with the Treyburn Family -- perhaps not necessarily together ALL THE TIME (because mega-threads are whoa!) but certainly in pieces! Also, again, feel free to use your characters in all plots everywhere, because that's what they're here for! Please keep the family updated on important happenings -- like if your character is horribly wounded, if a member of the extended family is killed (like spouses or children), etc. And another reminder for when the time comes: the family estates are in Uthlyn. (Don't ask me why the Shenanigans thread is in Matron's Hollow, because I don't know, frankly! ;_; ) However, what with most of the kids being adults and in the military, the kids are likely to be spread out all over the place! Feel free to write letters to each other and just... Have fun!
And make sure to give Brax lots of gray hair!
Can we add Janette's psychological, physical and emotional traumatic experience to the timeline? Cause that's gonna be something that defines her character. That trauma. THEM FEELS.
I should probably bring this up now before the plot progresses any further, but I'd like to not be involved with this thing with Janette. That kind of experience just leaves a really bad taste in my mouth, so I try to avoid it.
So, yeah. This might never even involve my characters and I might be nattering on about nothing, but since I've got a Treyburn sibling, I'm going to say right here that I'm going to back off and sit this one out. Please don't ask me, because that sort of thing isn't something I can comfortably roleplay about, and I'm not really willing to either.
Just throwing that out there just in case.
Hey, Vivi!
I appreciate the heads up. I think it's important for people to feel comfortable enough to share how they feel, and it's equally important that everyone respects those boundaries! I bowed out of the story element for similar reasons myself, so, again, I appreciate you coming forward!
That's perfectly fine Vivi, I understand that it is a heavy topic, which why I have a backup if no one feels up to it :) I don't mind if people want out as long as I know
Well since we're sharing, I think I'm with Vivi and Ivory on sitting this one out. I usually avoid rape themes (unless it's fairly in the background). But I'm not really interested in it as the main theme of a story, and I'm not comfortable doing a thread with those themes with someone underage. Sorry, Bris, it's nothing personal.
Also, a late reply to Zoz:
Call me a cynic, but if the siblings were just told that Jana was going to be joining them, and then 20 minutes later a stranger shows up in costume, wouldn't Jana be the first guess? Or at least a very quick second guess?
That's fine guys! To make life easier, if you're interested, let me know, then I can arrange it with you!
Just a PSA
QuoteMature themes involving violence, gore, drug use, sex, abuse, and other such "mature" topics can and do appear in some threads and plots. You must make sure that any other players involved in the thread are comfortable with these subjects prior to writing them. Please be mature, tasteful, and responsible when dealing with these subjects.
By reading and/or participating in threads containing mature content, you are agreeing that you are 18 years of age or older.
Right from the rules. And to also mention, nothing explicit can be written by a minor without it being illegal in US law. Since the board is owned in the US, it still applies to people in other countries.
So Bris, you have to keep it PG-13 and eluded to it rather than write it out. You can deal with the emotional impact, but nothing graphic.
Quote from: Brisinger987 on November 09, 2013, 02:35:16 PM
Are any siblings feeling up to comforting Janette? I'm going to have her go through a traumatic experience, very heavy themes, mainly revolving around the emotional aftermath of a rape. Only the aftermath, her emotional distress, and her trauma.
If any sisters do feel they can handle this task, and if any rpers are feeling brave enough to deal with it, I'm open to suggestions! If there are no takers, I'll assume she represses it with amnesiac potions.
Not for the faint hearted.
NOTE: I will NOT be playing out the rape, not even in flashbacks, just her emotions.
I never planned to break that rule Looshi xD I'm a good boy, don't worry.
Okay! x3
I'm fine with dealing with the aftermath... after all, I think Jana would. But she'll probably be just as lost as I am as to what to say. So I hope that is fine.
Klei... shhhhhhh. ;) Haha but yeah... my general idea was that some people (like Illi) would be oblivious to who she was, while the others that figured it out probably wouldn't blurt it out and tease the slower ones. But it's up to you guys, of course. :)
Time for me to weigh in on the Janette rape plot. I too admit to being uncomfortable with writing this type of theme with minors even if it is only implied.
Rather than pursuing a rape theme, I would have suggested her running away from home after Braxton loses his temper with her at the ball (depending on what she has done) and comes down harder than usual on her with discipline. Janette could run off with her street rat gang, thinking she'll be happier there but perhaps things do not turn out the way she pictures it. Maybe her so-called friends betray her when their backs are against a wall and leave her behind when they nearly get caught by the authorities for trying to steal from a home or a shop or something. Perhaps Janette winds up in jail and is going to be punished and Braxton could find out about this and maybe pull as many strings as he can to get her out. Maybe the experience in jail and being treated like a criminal helps to make Janette reconcile her behavior and helps her to take a step in a better direction? *shrugs* That's just one idea.
With all of that said, if you're still intent on using rape as a theme for your character, I too am going to ask that you leave me out of it. Thanks.
Well since almost nobody in the family seems interested in the rape plot (and it's an event that would include the whole family), maybe it is better to go with something else.
Furthermore, since no one has responded to the pre-ball, i'm gonna edit the end of my post a little. Feel free to have your characters react as they wish. :)
The plot is a very sensitive topic, and I agree with paradox; that there are other ways to get character development of a significant level, and that it should fall into a consequence of Janette's behaviour.
You don't have to edit your post zozee, I was going to reply with Florry but I've been busy. Am I right to guess that the mystery person appearing is Jana?
Oh no I was going to edit it a lot earlier but didn't want to throw anyone off. I just thought about it a little longer and figured that Jana would at least introduce her (fake) self.
Now I just need to figure out who she's gonna pretend to be... >.>
Ah, okay then! Whatever you gotta do zoz!
Yeah but if you (or anyone) wants to reply, go ahead.
Other than a death sentence, I can't see why Janette wouldn't like prison that much. She can fight, all the stuff she likes. So a death sentence would be the only thing that scared her.
Maybe a rival gang gets her, an organised crime gang, and violently beat and torture her before letting her go as a warning? That would terrify her.
Medieval prison is a lot different from a modern prison...especially in Connlaoth. Connlaothian guards do not put up with law-breaking or antics. Sure, there might be fights and things -- that's par for the course -- but this is pretty much what you could expect...
*Brutality by the guards for the slightest offense
*Lucky if you get a cot -- more than likely, you're sleeping on a dirt floor without even a blanket, with your toilet (a hole in the ground that is never cleaned out) like a foot away and water running down the walls
*If you're well-behaved, you might get to have your own cell. If you aren't well-behaved, you're probably chained to a wall and unable to move.
*Food. You're lucky if you get fed twice a day. Don't expect it to be edible.
*No yard time or exercise. You're going to be stuck in a cell.
I mean, these are not friendly places. They were designed to beak a person down mentally and physically, and the guards that ran them were cruel.
Plus, in Connlaoth, there would be additional punishments meted out -- losing a hand, branding, etc.
I only mention all this because, for most of us, torture falls in the same category as rape... Very dark, very uncomfortable.
For what it's worth, I think a Janette-going-to-prison/jail would also be interesting since it would endanger the "family name" so to say. Which, while maybe not GREAT, isn't currently criminal! (EDIT: Except for Jana. Whoops!) Endanger the family name more. And I think it'd offer more room in the plot for everyone in the family?
And I agree with Ivory that, realistically, there would be plenty about prison to scare a 19 year old girl... even a scrappy one like Janette! Also, I imagine prisons in Connlaoth would only be worse during the war... And it might give Janette the opportunity to make friends with "war criminals"/mages? Just a thought. Might be interesting.
Just my two cents.
Medieval history was never my strong point.
I'll see how it goes with jail.
You sound so resigned! Let me put it another way...
Essentially, what you're talking about with your ideas have been putting Janette into a position where she has her sense of confidence and power taken away from her, from what I can tell.
The prison scenario fits very well with this. Actually, it works a bit better, in my opinion...
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Picture it, if you will... A dark cell, with, perhaps, only the faintest glimpse of the sky from a narrow slit high above her head. A cold, dirt floor. Sounds -- the constant dripping of water; sobbing, perhaps, from a cell somewhere; the clanking of metal chains;the buzzing of flies and the squeaking of mice, emboldened enough to crawl over prisoners in their cells; the coughing of the untreated sick and moans of the dying; perhaps the hushed murmur of prisoners silenced suddenly by a call from the guards, or, even, the sound of a club falling on someone. The food is gruel with, maybe, a slice of moldy bread -- and you can eat it, or you can starve.
And there is no escape from this. The prisoners are all just nameless numbers, be they high-born or low, mundane or mage. You are no one here. No one is coming to save you. And the attention of the guards earns you only a beating, from which your wounds will go untreated. This is a place of despair, of darkness, and of suffering.
You may be able to keep your spirits and bravado up for a few days. Or a week. Or even a month. But, sooner or later, the cold loneliness seeps into you, because you aren't going to leave any time soon. This is a prison, not a jail -- can you really last three years? Five? Ten? And what if they forget to let you out when your sentence is at an end? Because there is no one on the outside fighting for you -- you have no one at all.
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Imagine that... She has no control over the situation or even her own person. She's alone, and all the fighting ability in the world will do her no good where she is. That's what prisons were meant to do: to break the individual into a complacent doll.
Now, of course, in this scenario, the Treyburns would find out and come to her rescue somehow. But does she know that? No, of course not. And that's what makes it interesting...because it's up to you how long she's in there and how much she's broken down...and what, if any, after-effects there would be. Nightmares? Fear of small spaces or the dark? Maybe she starts talking to herself. Possibilities!
That would terrify Janette, thinking about it. A lot.
Yup. That's the idea!
Also, I edited the bottom of my previous post... I got distracted and forgot to write that before pushing Post!
Added this: Imagine that... She has no control over the situation or even her own person. She's alone, and all the fighting ability in the world will do her no good where she is. That's what prisons were meant to do: to break the individual into a complacent doll.
Now, of course, in this scenario, the Treyburns would find out and come to her rescue somehow. But does she know that? No, of course not. And that's what makes it interesting...becau se it's up to you how long she's in there and how much she's broken down...and what, if any, after-effects there would be. Nightmares? Fear of small spaces or the dark? Maybe she starts talking to herself. Possibilities!
She would hate it so much. TO JAIL IT IS!
Excellent!! Let the plotting begin!!
So, Paradox has allowed us to establish that it is most likely that her street rat friends abandon her when they're backed against the wall, and let Janette get captured. Why are they being chased? Perhaps they stole from a guard or 8?
Also, she might feel quite betrayed by her family if she doesn't know that they're trying to get her out. She could think they're just leaving her there to rot, or not trying hard enough to get her out, not trying at all, etc. etc. etc.
Which could add to an interesting family dynamic.
She could go through a few phases while they work to get her out? Like, she goes to anger, thinking that they have abandoned her, then denial, thinking that they wouldn't, then she goes through loads of phases like those, before she finally comes to acceptance that she'll die in there, when they get her out.
That would add an interesting dynamic actually. I'm liking this idea more and more!
Mmk... so we should also decide which siblings are going to get her out.
My first instinct says Jana, seeing as she wouldn't want the others to get in trouble. But either she would realize, or Redly would make her realize, that it would be much worse for her to get caught than anyone else. You know, seeing as she'd be killed immediately.
Illi, on the other hand, would probably be up for it. She likes adventures. But being the naive soul that she is, I don't know if her other siblings would let her go... since the scenes of prison might traumatize her slightly (though not nearly as much as Janette!).
Also, what's the plan for once Janette is out of prison? Are we just assuming that the guards wouldn't really notice since they have so many other prisoners? Or would she have to stay hidden?
A jailbreak would be bad all around for everybody... I think Paradox was suggesting having Brax flex some political muscle to spring her -- either through political favors, money, or what have you.
That would make muchhhhh more sense.
Well... I suppose Jana still couldn't be involved in that one!
After all, she doesn't have the greatest political standing...
The question I have is how the Clan would find out... I would suggest either Jana or Trevian, personally, because they might know someone who knows something, but certainly anyone else might also know someone who knows something, too.
Jana probably knows a lot of people... but even someone like Braxton might be told. I mean, if someone from the prison or one of the guards that capture her recognize her, they might tell him...
Yeah, but you can't let Braxton have all the fun. Ivory made a suggestion to me in messenger that greatly amuses me , but I'll leave that up to her as to whether or not she wants to go with that.
A not so serious suggestion: Of course, Braxton could learn it through the Treyburn grapevine. Maybe an acquaintance of Jana tells her, she tells Redley, Redley tells Dahlia who tells Oscar who tells Illi, who tell Cherie who tells Florry who tell Tevian who tells Braxton.
My point being that I think Braxton should hear about it from another Treyburn. xD
That would be great! <3 I can totally see that chain happening, too. XD
I had an entertaining idea for how Trevian might find out about Janette, if you don't want Jana to have any contacts inside a prison, Zee...
Idc! I mean, I'm sure she does have contacts just about everywhere. Especially since her rank within the Free Folk is fairly high. So it could work. But there is also the reasonable idea that she might not want to contact those people much while with her family, in case she gets caught. So Trev would totally work, too. :)
UPDATE: I finally edited my pre-ball post. :)
Well I'll leave it for you to decide how they find out. Janette will probably try to make a few friends before she finally starts breaking down.
When did you want to have the arrest happen, Bris?
In the few weeks following the ball were my thoughts.
Okay! The ball takes place in our December, so I'm going to put it in the new year. Happy New Year -- Janette's in jail!
LOL.
So, the info so far:
Janette goes out in the few weeks following the ball, with her gang of street rats. They get caught trespassing on the property of an exceptionally influential nobleman, who has his own guard force, and has power over the normal guards. They get found, chased out and onto the streets.
Eventually they get cornered, and in their selfish way, they leave Janette behind because of her origins in nobility, taunting that they're "sure her family will pay to get her out, if they actually care".
Janette goes to jail, awaiting a sentence for trespassing, and the unconfirmed charge of murder (Actually committed by Torak and Sophia) of the nobleman whose property they invaded.
((Everything from this point on is subject to significant change if desired))
After some days, the family begin to wonder and worry and find that Janette has been thrown in jail. They work to get her out.
Eventually, the charge of murder comes up false, and Janette is released as some strings are pulled. She promises to herself to never have a behavioural relapse and actually tries to be normal.
Which is hard for her.
Man, Torak is always causing trouble. XD
Well he has a sister now xD So he's on a spree with her, just doing loads of behind the scenes stuff. If Jinai would like to witness his ultimate death, she's welcome. Maybe they could have a final reconciliation?
EDIT: Because I love you all, I want to make another Treyburn, but I don't know what to make, as all the kids are full. In other words, what should I make guys?!
I know there are a few people looking for folks to play their characters' kids... If playing a child doesn't suit you, however, I'm sure we could come up with a cousin or aunt or uncle or what have you!
Illi could always use a friend or relative that would convince her to follow her dreams and move to serendipity. Oh wait she has Davishire.
Anyway, the Treyburn family is big and spread out! I doubt all the cousins and others have the same reputation, but that's no matter! You really could create anyone. Except for a grandparent. Pretty sure they're all dead.
I think I've probably now put too much thought into Dahlia's children to turn any of them into PCs (I guess I need to update this on her profile... >.>)
BUT, if you wanted to make a cousin, Bris, I could probably be convinced to make one as well, depending. Let me know!
Well Ma seems to have loads of kids, it only makes sense that GrandMa had a f**k ton of them too, lol.
So, yeah, I can do cousin!
I don't suppose I could get in on this could I?
YES! Welcome to the chaos, Wicked!
And now we are going to need a family tree... This makes me soooo happy!
Do either of you have characters in mind? Depending on what age you're looking at, you may be removed rather than plain old first cousins....not that this matters. Just be aware!
I'm going to make a family tree now! Link to be added once it is updated!
I will add, however, that Treyburn family rules should apply here too...
So I'm just spitballing, but if I made a Treyburn-adjacent, it will probably be a bratty teenager with the gift of Adharaism who DOES NOT want to be a Knight of the White Lily (chastity forever? no thank you!), but is being pushed into it by her parents because it's Very Prestigious. That's just the idea that's rattling around in my head at the moment.
I was thinking (now my head is in overdrive on ideas that I shouldn't do. Like a demon possessed family chicken.) that they could be plain old first cousins, it would give more interaction.
My personal thoughts were to make a mage or something along those lines. Perhaps that side of the family has magic in abundance? Is it going to be Ma or Pa's brother or sister? Cause if the family was the polar opposite of the current family that would be amusing. With that family actually being functional, lol.
And if they had a daughter with Adharaism, and a son who had an affinity for magic, and they were twins... 0.o That would be so awesome. His abilities would have cancelled in the womb, and he would have been like "I HAVE MAGIC?!"
So what you're probably looking at, based on age and my random dice rolls, are first cousins once removed...so the kids of the current Treyburns' first cousins. Does that make sense?
Right now, random dice rolls gave Pa two younger brothers and Ma 7 older. I have also given Ma a maiden name: Delancy. So you can either be Treyburn cousins or Delancy cousins...though if your character is related to one of the female Delancy's, your last name would be different.
Assuming you want to stick with Treyburn, here are the names of the brothers:
Adair
Theyer
Anyway, for the age group you're looking at, Adair or Theyer would be your grandfather.
Edit: The dice came to your rescue... I wish I could roll like this while fighting trolls and dragons! Anyway, the dice say Adair had 8 kids and Theyer 10...so those ages are definitely fine as first cousins on the Treyburn side!
Hey Klei... I'm really tempted to create a guy (or girl) to throw at your character for romance. Someone who keeps telling her to follow her dreams and kind of helps the rebellious part of her stand out. I feel like we could create a very cute story. :)
Oh, but I like the name Delancy! (But I'm not that fussed).
I'd rather go with not-twins, I think, unless you're really set on it Bris. Twins who have both Adharaism and magic seem like a bit too much to me. >.>
I'll mull over it and maybe throw some more ideas out later this weekend.
I was thinking of making a cousin or first cousin once removed or whatever we're at right now that is an actice member in some sort of underground pro-mage resistance that would put the whole family at risk if someone found out who he was related to. That should make for some drama methinks.
Now you're juat creating more work for me! :P Juuuust kidding! Random dice rolls, here we go! Now, these kids are all older than Rose. The only other girls are Azalea and Lilac, because Flowers!
Selas: 0
Azalea: 4
Blaine: 6 (This would probably be the heir to the Delancy minor title.)
Lilac: 2
Hamish: 10
Anders: 6
Jorryn: 10
Those are kid counts, just so you know! (And, yes, I am accounting for the fact some may not have had children!)
Waittttttt... I'm lost. Hmm... maybe I'll just wait for the family tree. Where did all these people come from? D:
Well, you're 16 now, so it's time you learn about the birds and the bees, I suppose... XD
Um, actually, random dice rolls. Because those are awesome. I'm a slave to my gamer instincts...
Anyway, you guys can either talk about making up siblings or just make up random family members. I don't care! *flails!* Also, all names are easily changed... I just wanted to put some names down for the tree!
You know what? I think I will throw my hand in after all.
I might steal one of the Delancy cousins, and have them sort of set apart from the family by joining the Mordecai. However, I think mine will be older (probably mid to late twenties) and not have Adharaism - mostly because I prefer the idea of having her go without, and partially because I don't want to step of Kleine's toes over her idea :P
But yeah, don't know how involved with the family she'd be willing to be, it depends on the personality and plotting, but maybe say she's one of Blaine's children or something?
Here's what I have to start! (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhL09BMO6Q-EdFVMNEQwMHBpZWp2XzB4ZTBjYlRxbEE&usp=sharing)
Please let me know if the link isn't working for whatever reason...
Also, you'll notice there are two trees: one for the Treyburn Family and one for the Delancy Family.
Also: red boxes mean the character is not claimed!
So many people. :O Well, i'll probably claim like one or ten... Later.
Would love to have one of Adair's children! I'm thinking a mage. A strong one, not OP. But fairly strong. With some noticeable side effects from the rather odd circumstances surrounding his birth.
I'm talking, he wasn't actually conceived style stuff. As in, he's a manifestation. Of ebils and stuff. Like, Damien. Or some other demon child stuff. He won't be inherently evil, but he'll be clearly born of evil stuff.
Maybe.
I'm not sure exactly on the character yet.
God. Why are there so many kids?! :O
Just...
don't ask. S:
OH btw vee, I loved your birds and bees joke. *totally forgot to mention that*
I'mma thinkin' Jacen Wakefield, son of Zain and Lilac Wakefield. I was gonna put him in his early twenties and make him an active member of some underground pro-mage resistance type deal.
He's putting the family at risk and is causing extra worry on his parents because he's one of their only two children. DRAMA!
What say you?
That's totally cool, Wicked. Do you want him to be older or younger than his sibling?
Also, for everyone else: let me know where you want me to plug your characters in, and I can certainly do that!
Older or younger? Hmmmmm. I suppose it depends on whoever decides to RP as his sibling. I wouldn't mind either way. But, if no one chooses to be his sibling, perhaps a younger sister worried about her older brother's well-being as he's off doing resistance work could be interesting.
Quote from: Wicked Basket on November 29, 2013, 06:54:01 PM
Older or younger? Hmmmmm. I suppose it depends on whoever decides to RP as his sibling. I wouldn't mind either way. But, if no one chooses to be his sibling, perhaps a younger sister worried about her older brother's well-being as he's off doing resistance work could be interesting.
So noted!!
Sister! Sister! That's me!
Older or younger, Zee? Also, let me know when you have a name!
Younger and Marie.
Done and done, Zee! The Wakefields are officially full up! I'll let you guys decide on the personalities of the parents and work out sibling things between yourselves!
So, for Adair's child;
The boy was never officially conceived. (Your whole midichlorians style shizz)
He's got an affinity for evil magic, but is a genuinely nice person!
He'd probably be about 4 years older than Janette.
He'd be part of the Civil War. Possibly knows Jana well?
That's what I have so far.
Just let me know when you get your profiles done, and I can link them on the main page. Did you guys like the 2-3 word descriptions and views on magic write-ups? We can do those again, if you like, but not necessarily!
Bris: I'm not sure what you mean, never officially conceived? Or, if I am understanding it correctly, what it brings to the story... It's fine to have a character with destructive magic who is essentially a good person, but that, in Connlaoth, is really story enough without adding in extra elements that don't really make all that much sense...
Okay so Wicked and I got the personality between Marie and Jacen down (should i put it here?), but I have no idea what to think of for their parents. These would be the sister and brother-in-law of Rose, right? Anyway, I was wondering if you guys (primarily Vee) had any ideas? Or at least a clue to what the Rose's parents would be like, so we have something to work with?
That being said, I haven't actually spoken to Wicked about this yet... so Wicked, feel free to chip in! XD
Oh, and why not? Extra details are nice!
Quote from: Ivory on November 29, 2013, 09:34:19 AM
Now you're juat creating more work for me! :P Juuuust kidding! Random dice rolls, here we go! Now, these kids are all older than Rose. The only other girls are Azalea and Lilac, because Flowers!
Selas: 0
Azalea: 4
Blaine: 6 (This would probably be the heir to the Delancy minor title.)
Lilac: 2
Hamish: 10
Anders: 6
Jorryn: 10
Those are kid counts, just so you know! (And, yes, I am accounting for the fact some may not have had children!)
Okay, I'm a bit behind... and therefore confused!
So the siblings of Rose listed here would be the
grandparents of a teenaged to mid-twenties character, right? (The whole first-cousin-once-removed business). So we'd need to make the parents (one of the children listed in these numbers) as NPCS to keep things from getting too confusing, and then the younger children? Right?
...Right?
I'm sorting them into generations on the website I'm working on.
Yep. I'm making a website. SotE is NOT particularly friendly for table-building!
To make it super easy (for me), I'm going to let you guys figure out the ages. Theoretically, there could be a Delancy wandering around making babies at the ripe age of 100 -- with his wife, who is only 20 years old. So, technically, the guys in the families aren't the issue...
Just keep in mind that both Delancy women are older than Rose by a few years, so their youngest kids should probably be mid-twenties at a minimum. Does that make sense?
With that being said, if you want to make up an NPC as a second generation character and play the third generation (which, on the Treyburn side, would be someone like Riley -- Dahlia is 2nd generation!) that would be fine too. I don't care!
Quote from: zozee9 on November 30, 2013, 10:28:00 PM
Okay so Wicked and I got the personality between Marie and Jacen down (should i put it here?), but I have no idea what to think of for their parents. These would be the sister and brother-in-law of Rose, right? Anyway, I was wondering if you guys (primarily Vee) had any ideas? Or at least a clue to what the Rose's parents would be like, so we have something to work with?
That being said, I haven't actually spoken to Wicked about this yet... so Wicked, feel free to chip in! XD
Oh, and why not? Extra details are nice!
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnd, I almost forgot to reply to you, Zee!
Go ahead and make up whatever you like for the parents! Rose being a conniving, horrid person may or may not have anything to do with her own parents!
OKAY. The crazy girl is done doing crazy things and is going to go to bed now! It's only 5am... Eh-heh.
Here's what I did. (http://treyburnfamily.pbworks.com/w/page/71194386/Information) All of the information I have currently has been transferred to PBWorks, which I am much more familiar with and was able to put it together a lot more quickly. Plus, I feel like this will help take some of the pressure off that first post in this thread, which is getting so super long and clunky! Click some links, do some reading, etc, etc. Let me know if anything isn't working or if I've grossly misspelled something.
I've decided to keep doing the 2-3 word descriptions after all, because it's an exercise in brain powers, and it also gives a neat summary to the character. The views on magic, however, I will leave off unless you all decide you want to do it!
Regarding NPCs: other than Ma & Pa, I really had nothing in mind for the other siblings or other family members. Be reasonable in your decision-making skills -- that's all I ask -- but otherwise it's pretty much up to you. Because they're nobility, there's some expectation that their kids will be soldiers and will marry well -- but they do not have to be the terrible people Ma & Pa Treyburn were...unless, you know, that's what you want to do.
Regarding new PCs: Ages are up to you guys. Just try to be reasonable. Theoretically, the Delancy 2nd generation kids should all be older than the Treyburn 2nd generation kids are -- but, because most of the 1st generation are guys, this can be taken with a grain of salt. Also, if you'd like to make a 2nd generation NPC and just dive right into 3rd generation, go right ahead!
I feel like I had more to say, but I am terribly exhausted right now, so all I've really done is just rehash the last two posts. Ugh. *melts into a puddle of Ivory goo*
PS, if anyone knows PBWorks and wants to play with the site/add things/clean up after Zombie Ivory, just request access and I'll be happy to give it to you!
Vee... I'm pretty sure you're a wizard. You're a wizard, Vee! AND the site looks perfect. How did you manage to make no mistakes?! I have married a wonderful woman, yes I have. <3
Oh, and Vee, feel free to break the news as to who the stranger in the house is! Redly would know, after all. And you're the last one to post, no? So feel free! :)
I'm going to put a placeholder in for one of Blaine's older sons (I don't care if that's who the title passes to or not) as an NPC. He'll have two or three children, one of which will be my bratty, reluctant Adhara! If anyone is interested in playing a sibling, I'd love for her to have one (or maybe two)!
I'll come up with an actual name and stuff... soon.
For anyone that cares, I finally finished filling out all of Illi's profile. Jana still has a ways to go... I stopped that one after finishing the history. Anyway, if you guys wouldn't mind checking the relationships section and seeing if it fits with what you had in mind for your character(s), that would be awesome! <3
Kleine: Can do! *salute!* Random dice rolls say... You are in the line of inheritance! Way to go! I'll add them to the Family Tree! I...may make up a character too. Oh, Kleine, why do you do this to me? D:
Zee: Thanks for the vote of confidence, but there are mistakes aplenty! I see a few already that need to be fixed. Also, way to go on finishing the profile! <3 Relationships are sometimes the hardest part!
Quote from: Ivory on December 01, 2013, 11:53:58 AM
Kleine: Can do! *salute!* Random dice rolls say... You are in the line of inheritance! Way to go! I'll add them to the Family Tree! I...may make up a character too. Oh, Kleine, why do you do this to me? D:
<3! Do it! I'll PM you my girl's super provisional profile later tonight or tomorrow. Just in case you need that information! :D Just incase!
Okay!
Also, I totally thought that said "super professional profile." <3 Which was pretty awesome.
Any preference what number child she is?
Youngest if there are two kids, middle if there are three. But I'm flexible on that, just a preference. Also, this sounds like you're considering it more seriously! :D
All for the sake of the family tree... XD
And if you believe that one, I have an uncle who was a Nigerian Prince that just died, and I need a $100 deposit from you to claim his fortune -- we'll split the profits 50/50!
Pfft, those scams are still going on?
Also, for Aster Delancy, could I claim her as one of Blaine Delancy's younger children? She's twenty-seven, but I remember you saying the Delancy's would be older, so I think it works out.
Oh my God. I'm so glad you said something, Vivi, because I thought Aster was Kleine's character, for some reason! *dies 1000 terrible deaths*
Do you have a preference where you want her placed, order-wise?
Yeah, we both kind of had the same idea at the same time :P Apparently we were even planning on the same name!
Hmm, probably not quite the youngest, but other than that I don't mind.
Sorry for the late reply Ivory, but, I scrapped the whole "was conceived by evil" idea.
Bris: I'm still not at all sure what that means, so, although I hate to say it, I'm kind of glad! *so lost...sooooooooooo lost!*
Vivi: Stop being so absolutely perfect, you two! ;_; I'll make her the second to youngest, then!
I deny all knowledge of this perfection thing you speak of - but thanking you for setting that up! ^^
Vivi & Kleine: Family Tree is updated! A new branch has been added for Blaine's eldest son, Locke. We can discuss later if Locke is currently in charge of the Delancy Family or if we want to put Cuthbert (Bert for short!) in as the guy in charge!
Wicked & Bris: Just shoot me any questions you may have or let me know where you want to put your characters in the Family Tree!
So just to make sure I'm up to date on things, Locke should be my character (Trillium)'s father?
That is correct, Kleine!
If you wanted to name him or his wife something else, just let me know. I just wanted names to use as placeholders!
Eh, looked fine to me. Whatever the case, I admire your guts to even try it. :)
EDIT: Here is Marie! http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15737.msg161076#msg161076 (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15737.msg161076#msg161076) Haha I still have a bit of work to do...
Zee & Wicked: Obviously, age is just a number, but please be aware that Jacen and Marie's mother would have been pretty old when she had them... By my calculation, she would have been almost 50 whens he had Jacen and then 56 when she had Marie. I'm thinking it might be best to make your characters third generation... What do you think?
I'm thinkn' that she should have had kids sooner. :P
Right, but then your characters would be like 25 years older...which, certainly, you can do, but...
EDIT: If your heart is truly set on being 2nd generation, you could probably be adopted as ickle kids by the Wakefields!
So where do we go from here then? Make different children for the Wakefields and then have those children have children which then are our characters? This family tree is going to turn out to be a whole damn forest soon. :P
It's already a forest...
What Kleine and I have done is to just make up a 2nd generation NPC as a parent that you and Zee can flush out to your heart's content. Whether they're living or dead would be up to you.
And speaking of which...
Here's Cuthbert Delancy, Heir to the Delancy Title. (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15738.msg161089#msg161089) I chose the following three words to describe him: Devoted, Deliberate Athlete.
Revised character idea:
Young son of Adair (About Janette's age, give or take a year)
Affinity for super evil magic. Is a pacifist.
Romantically involved with another Connlaoth mage until she is killed defending her family from mordecai.
Is no longer pacifist.
Goes on the run, killing everyone who gets in his way in his love fuelled rage of complete über-death.
Just let me know when you've got a profile done up and your short description, and I'll link it!
Ahhhh idk how old anyone is anymore. XD
The other thing we were talking about was the fact that she only had two kids. So while I do think her being 50 and 56 is too old, it's possible that she didn't want kids until later in her life (and then she only had two). Or that maybe she wasn't actually able to have kids, but then some sort of magic got thrown in (idk by who) that allowed her to... Which would help explain even more why Marie is so set on having no suspicions on her family. She wouldn't want her parents to get persecuted for having magic used on them. Idk, just an idea.
p.s. how old was Rose when she had Cherie?
Almost 15 years younger...and that was considered old for bearing children and it was after a lifetime of having children every few years. For someone to become a mother (for the first time) at age 50, it would be very dangerous. Also remember that most people lived only to about 65-70ish naturally, too.
I realize this is a role-playing game in a fantasy setting, and I sound ridiculously nitpicky here, but I guess I like my fantasy bound by some realism...
So you can either have an NPC parent (which is what you were going to have anyway -- just a different name) or, if you absolutely have to have a 2nd gen kid, you can change their last name to Delancy and make them the kids of one of the brothers. Or you can add 10 to their ages.
Hey Zoz/Wicked,
What about some sort of Margret Atwood-y situation like The Handmaid's Tale? Lilac wasn't able to have children and finally when she was older and past the age where she physically could have children (most women of 50 are at least entering menopause!), she had a servant mother children for her? But considers the children "hers."
Just an idea that might work things out! This could also be a fun way to introduce weird magic or something into the kids that wasn't already in the family line.
Quote from: kleineklementine on December 02, 2013, 06:11:27 AM
Hey Zoz/Wicked,
What about some sort of Margret Atwood-y situation like The Handmaid's Tale? Lilac wasn't able to have children and finally when she was older and past the age where she physically could have children (most women of 50 are at least entering menopause!), she had a servant mother children for her? But considers the children "hers."
Just an idea that might work things out! This could also be a fun way to introduce weird magic or something into the kids that wasn't already in the family line.
Yup, that's definitely something that's do-able -- or even just plain old adoption. There probably aren't adoption agencies, per se, but a childless couple might take a couple of street kids into their home.
And here's Trilium (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15741.new#new), my very reluctant Adhara-to-be!
Quote from: kleineklementine on December 02, 2013, 09:47:38 AM
And here's Trilium (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15741.new#new), my very reluctant Adhara-to-be!
Yaaaaay!
Do you want to give me a 2-3 word description for the website?
Passionate, Unwilling Adhara
Should I give a description for mine, too?
Oh, gosh yes! Sorry! Somehow I missed sweet Aster!
'Sweet' being the operative word. Righto, here's a nice digestible sound-bite for her:
Calm and collected mordecai.
I have a three word description for my character, Corey Treyburn:
Vengeful, driven mage
Perfect, thanks to both of you! :)
Let me know when you get that profile, Bris! Even if it's not done, I can still link it on the website!
I'm pretty interested in getting involved in some shtuff around the place, so I might pick up a Delancy kid if that's alright? Probably a boy, because, well, I don't have any male characters at the moment XD
Not sure on the details; I'll think on it for a while, just wanted to get a foot in!
Welcome, welcome!
If you haven't done so already, feel free to browse the Website (http://treyburnfamily.pbworks.com/w/page/71194386/Information) for more information! Also, feel free to ask questions here and do plotingses! :D
Gonna start up Corey's profile now! Will link him here after.
Ooo I kinda like klei's idea. Or adoption. Either way would allow for some abnormal quircks. :) The question would be this--why did Lilac not have kids (or adopt) earlier?
The only thing I can think of is that she wasn't planning to. But then she found Marie and her brother out on the streets or something, and couldn't help herself. Just to clarify, I doubt they grew up on the streets. But maybe they grew up (until adoption, which would still be when they were pretty young) in an orphanage, and she met them on the streets.
Hey. Ivory. Guess what.
COREY TREYBURN. (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15748.new#new)
I think, in Connlaoth, the orphanage is the Church, and once they get their talons in you, they don't let go. XD
Here's an idea that's similar but without the orphanage bent, and it would also give her a reason to take the kids in... Perhaps they were originally the children of a household servant. The servant's husband was dead, and she had no family...and when she took ill, Lilac, who had fallen in love with the little ones, offered to adopt them to provide the dying woman some peace of mind.
Quote from: Brisinger987 on December 02, 2013, 02:43:10 PM
Hey. Ivory. Guess what.
COREY TREYBURN. (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15748.new#new)
Working on putting him on the site... Just need an occupation -- basically, what does your character
do?
He's part of the Free Folk
What does he do for the Free Folk? Guard? Scout? Gather Information? Etc?
Ranger, mostly an active soldier
Awwww that sounds sweet, Vee! If Wicked is okay with that, I am!
Sure. Why not? I'm gonna have to change Jacen's profile. Again. :P
Haha well I still have to write most of Marie's. XD
Okay, I have a question for the actual Treyburn siblings following up Zoz's most recent post in the Shenanigans thread...
Quote from: zozee9 on December 04, 2013, 06:17:44 PM
Illi looked at her siblings with a little bit of disdain. Even if there was a random stranger in their house, wouldn't it be best to treat him with some respect? Well, she should have known better than to expect that from her siblings. She was about to curtsy, introduce herself, and apologize for her siblings... but then Trevian spoke about "dear uncle Reagan". Being one for stories, Illi knew exactly who that was. And the look of surprise and pain—though it lasted only a second—on the man... no, the woman's... face proved his suspicions.
What exactly do the younger kids know about Reagan? I would have thought someone Illi's age wouldn't have known he existed at all? But unless I'm reading it wrong, it seems like she knows who he is and.... what happened to him? With the current timeline Dahlia is the only one of the "younger" kids who would have even been alive before he was killed, right?
Help... I'm confused!
Oh, gosh, sorry, everyone! I forgot that not everyone was present and accounted for during the plottings!
Here's the deal: it is public knowledge that Jana had joined the military under the name of her brother, Reagan Treyburn. When Darryn found out and sent his men to have her arrested, she accidentally killed one the men and fled.
Redly was taken into custody for harboring her and in aiding her in posing as a man. At the trial that followed, he testified that it was an elaborate scheme to protect their cowardly brother, Reagan, who had fled to Serendipity rather than take his place in the military. Braxton confirmed that Reagan had, indeed, fled but could claim not to know about Jana's role due to being part of a separate unit. Redly did end up doing a little bit of military jail time for his role in helping Jana escape custody, in fact! He was also disowned by his parents and Brax became the next heir.
Whew.
Of course, the real story is a little different. In T14, Jana's twin brother, Reagan, was accidentally killed. (If I remember right, I think Pa shoved him and he fell wrong.) Darryn and Rose decided not to make the death public, although mention of Reagan's name was forbidden in the house itself. (In T14, the kids were the following ages: Redly 14; Reagan & Jane 12; Braxton 9; Dahlia 4; Trevian just born.)
In T18, Jana joined the military to escape her parents and an unwanted marriage they were trying to force her into.
In T23, the whole plan fell apart when Darryn discovered that Reagan Treyburn had enlisted. He sent his men to arrest her, she lashed out when it appeared they were going to kill Redly for trying to protect her, and then she ran. Darryn and Rose made it clear to Redly that if he didn't lie about Reagan's whereabouts, he would never, ever see any of the kids again...and had Braxton not agreed to tell the same story, he would have gone on trial and probably been disowned too. (Ages: Redly 23; Jana 21; Braxton 18; Dahlia 13; Trevian 9; Oscar 6; Jillian 4; Florry 2)
Obviously, Darryn and Rose would not have brought the story home with them in full detail to the kids, but the older ones would have known about Redly being disowned and kicked off the property, etc. I was assuming Trev knew because he can't resist the temptation to ferret out secrets... Now, he wouldn't have just spilled the beans to everyone, but he definitely knows. Cherie knows about the story and just assumes Reagan is out there somewhere.
I leave it up to the rest of you (and Zee) to decide what your character knows and what they don't. Does that make sense?
Yeah... there was so much talking that went into that plot. And even if you read this entire plotting thread, it would still be confusing! We kept going back and forth and back and forth about the details.
But Vee explained it perfectly! My guess is that most of the kids believe the story more or less... though some might be a little more suspicious. I doubt anyone would guess that Darryn actually killed Reagan, though. Anyone younger than Oscar probably doesn't remember Reagan (it's up to vivi if Oscar himself remembers)... Redly, Jana, and Braxton all know, of course. The true story. I don't remember if Dahlia does, but her kids definitely wouldn't be told (unless you think she would tell them, Klei). Like Vee said, Trev figured it out one way or another. No matter what the case, however, Rose and Darryn only know that Redly, Jana, and Braxton know the true story.
I think no one younger than Dahlia would remember Reagan (Trevian was only a baby when he died?) I think Dahlia doesn't of course know the full story, but I think she knows Reagan is dead and that something dubious went down. I also think she probably bears a bit of a grudge against the older four for not being taken into their confidence on the true story once she was old enough - since Reagan was her brother, too, and she's old enough to remember him. But I don't think she'd confront them about it, and she definitely wouldn't even tell her kids that he existed, much less the truth!
Ah right, forgot the ages that Vee listed were the ages kids were when she was banished. So yes, barely anyone would remember Reagan. But anyone who does will remember him always being with Jana... since those two were inseparatable.
And that does sound like what I remember you saying earlier... Perfect!
And hopefully this clears any confusion anyone else may have had, too.
Ok. I gave Jacen's profile an overhaul. Check it out. See what you think.
Quote from: Wicked Basket on December 06, 2013, 01:43:21 PM
Ok. I gave Jacen's profile an overhaul. Check it out. See what you think.
Looks fantastic! :)
Jacen Wakefield is officially ready for action! Or drama in this case.
Well Wicked did stuff so I had to. >_> Only thing left is the history... Wicked, how old would Marie be when their parents died? My guess was between two and five.
Anyway, she's also ready for drama! Haha I think she'll be an interesting character to write. :)
Right guys. This is the moment you've all been waiting for.
*drumroll* The one. The only... The amazing...... The spectacular.........
*fanfare* JANETTE'S JAIL TIME (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15786.0)
*applause* Thank you, thank you... This is where we get to watch Janette metamorphose as she spends time in the cocoon that is her Uthlyn jail cell!
So. Who wants to find out how she is in jail, and how?
I have no idea how old Marie would have been when their parents died. To be quite honest, I didn't give any thought to how old Jacen would have been when they died. I just wrote it in without giving much thought to it because that's what we had decided on. :P I was planning on both of them being aware that they are adopted orphans to enhance the whole "me and you against the world" thing they have because they are the other's only remaining family member. So Marie would have been old enough to know her parents and know that they died I suppose.
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, humans and elves of ALLLLLLL ages.
Welcome to the second episode of Janette's Jail Time (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15786.new#new)!
Now, if you're planning to take part in this very special event, please message us in now! Send us a message on this phone number: 092873501293 (It's not real, don't try it, just post here, lol)
Oh. I thought you were going to wait until the ball event was over or you were gonna write out the bits where Janette runs away and gets into trouble. Was not expecting this to happen so soon. I can honestly say that I'm not quite ready yet lol. xD
So, um, when do I get to do something? I'mma gettin' bored. :P
Haha it's a bit hard wicked, because all the treyburn plotting is in the ball. But if you'd like, we can always work with our cousins and maybe get one other character to throw in. :)
I think you could also technically jump into the ball, if you were so inclined? I could also have Bert moseying around somewhere, if you wanted to start off there!
Are all Treyburn relatives going to the ball? I don't wanna just intrude upon threads. It would make sense if everyone was going.
No, not all of them are but that doesn't mean that your character can't be there.
You won't be intruding on the ball threads that are open. Just head over here (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15548.0)and make an inquiry/express interest in having your character attend the ball. Please make sure you read the information there too.
Does anyone feel they ready to start the thread for helping Janette yet?
Hey, Bris!
I think you need to talk to Zee, because Jana was going to be the one to discover Janette...
Um, guys, just a quick question, how hushed would the family keep the whole "janette's been thrown in jail" thing? Would it be well guarded with lots of tabs on who knows, or a case of "she's the odd one, we don't care about her"?
Family wouldn't spread the info (probably), but I feel like the guards might. The kinda "Oh hey, you know that Treyburn family? Yeah, we just had one of them in our jail" thing. xD
Quote from: zozee9 on January 14, 2014, 02:59:34 PM
Family wouldn't spread the info (probably), but I feel like the guards might. The kinda "Oh hey, you know that Treyburn family? Yeah, we just had one of them in our jail" thing. xD
LOOOL
*imagines all the guard gossip*
I hope that answers your wonders about whether Janette would end up at the ball you are planning?
Hey guys, so unfortunately in the interest of maybe one day finishing my PhD (or at least write up a manuscript for my first paper!) I think I need to take an indefinite hiatus (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=16088.0) from SotE. I'm hoping it's temporary and I would definitely want to pick Dahlia back up when I got back, but I completely understand if you want to clear her spot in the Treyburn Family Tree for an active writer. I can always revamp Dahlia later to be part of some other family if I need to. (I'm hoping the extended Treyburn/Delancy family is big enough that Trillium is fine).
But yeah, do whatever you think is best for the people actually here and writing! No hard feelings from me. Just let me know.
Sorry, Kleine -- you're stuck with us! :D
Enjoy your paper-writing!!
Quote from: kleineklementine on January 21, 2014, 12:48:49 AM
I would definitely want to pick Dahlia back up when I got back, but I completely understand if you want to clear her spot in the Treyburn Family Tree for an active writer.
Hell no! You're a Treyburn now and forever! :D
I'm bumping this thread since yeah <3
The Treyburns should always get all the love <3
It's also an AWESOME way to get involved into some of the nobility of Connlaoth, since this family is so large and expansive! Check out the totally awesome information page (http://treyburnfamily.pbworks.com/w/page/71194386/Information) Ivory made! <3
And also, of course, post here if you have any interest :D
Also a potentially fun way to get your characters involved in the Connlaothian Civil War (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=14741.0) (or just sibling mischief? XD )
Helloooooooo Treyburns! Spice and I have this awkward thread with Edward and Dahlia (http://www.spiritsoftheearth.net/smf/index.php?topic=15936.msg197396;boardseen#new) that so far has ended up with Edward breaking his leg (nice job, Lilly) and having to stay with Dahlia for the foreseeable future while he heels. Awkward! We were wondering if any of the Treyburns might want to take this opportunity and make this situation a little bit more awkward? Let me know if you're interested! (And maybe PM me/Spice before jumping in!)
Quote from: kleineklementine on June 05, 2014, 08:31:45 AM
...so far has ended up with Edward breaking his leg (nice job, Lilly) and having to stay with Dahlia for the foreseeable future while he heels.
I'm like 99% sure you didn't mean to make a pun, but I'm going to pretend you did, because you're awesome like that.
I'll give other folks a chance to jump in before I go and leap in feet first.
Quote from: Ivory on June 05, 2014, 08:50:26 AM
Quote from: kleineklementine on June 05, 2014, 08:31:45 AM
...so far has ended up with Edward breaking his leg (nice job, Lilly) and having to stay with Dahlia for the foreseeable future while he heels.
I'm like 99% sure you didn't mean to make a pun, but I'm going to pretend you did, because you're awesome like that.
I'll give other folks a chance to jump in before I go and leap in feet first.
Oops! No, I'm just overcaffeinated and underslept and obviously can't keep my words straight.
I'll pass , thank you. I couldn't even keep up with the first ball thread. :-[
That sounds hilarious, but it seems like Vee has interest in it and I doubt either of my girlies would be very fitting for the thread. xD
Quote from: zozee9 on June 05, 2014, 11:28:52 AM
That sounds hilarious, but it seems like Vee has interest in it and I doubt either of my girlies would be very fitting for the thread. xD
Davishire and Illi... lol
though that doens't make entirely a lot of sense, the idea can still amuse me!
It's not that I'm necessarily interested. Or not necessarily not interested! I just thought I'd let other people have a chance to play their charries!
Ping.
Anyone still out there?